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AIBU to leave my ok DH

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Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:11

I'm soon to be 40 and have been married 10 years. No DC, 1 cat. My DH and I haven't had sex in 5. He wants to, I don't. The reason I don't want to is because I resent him for hundreds of little things that have happened in our relationship. Stupid, petty things, like me asking him to do something (e.g.put laundry away) and him saying he will, later, then never doing it. He's always preferred an easy life, always been the more laid back one, whilst I've always been the one who keeps things running, who ensures the cat is flead, the hotel is booked in time before it gets super expensive, MOT is booked in etc. He leaves things until last minute and then does a bad job, not because he can't do things properly but because he's essentially a bit lazy. We have had the same argument 1000s of times:

Me: 'please do this'. Him: 'in a bit'. Me, days later: 'why haven't you done it'. Him: some sort of excuse. Me getting angry and/or upset. It always ends in him apologising and promising to do better.

It's gotten to the point that I don't trust him at all anymore and I've said some truly hurtful things to him (name calling), because I've lost respect. He gets angry because I don't trust him. He also gaslights me. Minor gaslighting tbh but he'll claim I never asked him to do something, or that he told me he would do it - insert day - and that I must have misheard him etc. All lies to cover his back. He will always eventually admit he lied, after me insisting he stops gaslighting me. But by that point we've had a massive argument and we're both upset. We argue daily.

He's not a bad man and I often wonder if I were more easy-going we could have a great marriage. And he has actually improved a lot since we first met. We do housework 50-50 now (though I am still the manager and he always asks me what needs doing rather than do things off his own bat). He very rarely takes initiative. I feel like I don't respect him anymore, that I am the only adult in this relationship. I keep thinking if I only could have sex with him May be we could work things out. But, much as I like him and he is a great friend (we have the same sense of humour and want the same things out of life) the thought of sleeping with imo a manchild fills me with disgust.

I have brought up divorce a number of times but he won't hear of it. He says we can fix this and that we can't throw what we have away. But aren't we too young to stay in a sexless marriage? He's not happy because he has a wife with an incredibly sharp tongue and I'm not happy because I feel there is no going back.

I am terrified of leaving and realising I've made a terrible mistake. I am terrified of going through life (and dying!) on my own (practically no family left and friends are scattered across UK). What's to say the same won't happen again if I do find someone else (in my 40s which I'm sure is hard enough). And maybe it's me, maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist, too controlling, and if only I could let go a bit, things would be ok, eventually?

Do I stay or do I go?

OP posts:
MrsBrianWarner · 07/01/2019 14:44

If you stay, the deal is full and utter acceptance of who he is and how he behaves. Full acceptance.

Think about how hard it is to change yourself. Small changes even. Hard. Really hard.

Then think how easy it really is to change someone else.

Good luck OP

deydododatdodontdeydo · 07/01/2019 14:48

Sounds like you are just on a different level. I don't think he's particularly lazy.
DH and I both consider ourselves a bit lazy, but we cajole ourselves, and each other a bit, and everything gets done as a joint effort.
My sister and her DH, neither of us could live with them, they rarely vaccum, pots piled up, crumbs and stuff all over the table. But it works for them.
My parents are obsessive clean freaks who think we're slobs! Couldn't live with either of them either.
Can't see any turning back in your case either - he's not active enough for you and you're borderline abusive to him (even though you have some apologist supporters here).

waterrat · 07/01/2019 14:52

Forget the detail op of what he does and doesn't do. You aren't happy so you can leave. That's the way healthy relationships work.

Don't you believe you deserve an easy and happy relationship ?

Petsr4life · 07/01/2019 14:53

tbf deydo he's borderline abusive to me too

waterrat funny you should mention that, for the first 30 years of my life there wasn't a happy marriage/partnership in my family. That has changed now (not counting mine).

MrsBrian thanks, I think I need it!

OP posts:
Rednaxela · 07/01/2019 14:56

I could have written your OP when things were really bad with my DH, after first DC was born. I had always been the one with more drive but suddenly I became aware I was doing EVERYTHING while caring for a newborn and it was wrong on every level.

I had to grieve the loss of the marriage I wanted. And adapt my behaviour to effectively manage the marriage I do have.

Disengage. You've had the same argument over and over. Nothing will change there so stop doing it.

Things that have helped my situation:

  • written list of all the work and chores I did each day, written per day, put on fridge. Spoke for itself.
  • written checklist on fridge I wrote for DH to do on Saturday morning (no discussion or arguing, just "do this at this time, bye", I usually went out to do food shop so I didn't have to see what a bad attitude he had, if anything not done or half done calmly tell him I expect it finished right now before he sits down)
  • shared Google calendar with jobs scheduled in on repeat with alerts e.g. put bin out 7am reminder weekly

Good luck OP. Marriage is worth fighting for.

MrsBrianWarner · 07/01/2019 14:56

I wouldnt say an apologist supporter. I understand absolutely.

But i left after 2 years of it. I didnt stick around for a decade.

I didnt like who i was in the relationship.

Ironically about a year later he went out with someone else i knew through mutual friends and it turned out the same way. With her going bananas at him like i had. I felt vindicated in many ways. But i made the choice to end it when it was clearly over.

It made us both miserable because we werent compatible. I wanted a partner. He wasnt capable of fulfilling that for anyone. Its sad because he had good aspects. They were just totally outweighed by the rest of it.

Badstyley · 07/01/2019 14:58

OP I left a shitty marriage, not for the same reason as you’re describing, although he was a lazy twat. I have a disability, DS was 5, I had no money, couldn’t work and it took me 9 months to find a place to live. I have had a truly awful 5 years since but they’ve been so much more tolerable because he hasn’t been a part of my life.

OP you don’t need a list of reasons someone else would consider valid. If you’re not happy then you should change things so that you can be, and if that’s divorcing your DH then so be it. It’s your life, and despite what anybody might say or think, they don’t have to live it, you do. So what if you’re a nagging control freak, if indeed you are, doesn’t mean you should be in an unhappy relationship. Your DH is an adult and it’s his responsibility to create the life and relationship that makes him happy,, but that doesn’t entitle him to make you miserable. You owe him nothing. Get out if you think things have run their course. It might feel impossible now, but 3 years down the line it’ll be a memory, another life experience, and who knows where you might be, And who you might be with. Women have got out of worse and more difficult situations and never looked back. You have no kids, so that will make things much easier. There are plenty of men out there if you ever want another relationship, and not all of them are lazy bastards.

WellBHoise · 07/01/2019 14:59

If for 5 years you haven’t wanted to have sex with him, even when you’ve felt like just having sexual and he was there, then it’s really time to get a divorce as he isn’t going tk change and you won’t start fancying him again.
Man, he sounds really unappealing. Maybe his heavy relationship will be better for him as he realised how awful he is and he’ll do better. I think you’re past the point of counselling.

You’ve no children, say you can do divorce online now and you can settle amicably.

Do it and go have fun by yourself and you might even get broody!

WellBHoise · 07/01/2019 15:00

See, i read rednexalla’s post and still thought if that was me I’d want to leave!

deydododatdodontdeydo · 07/01/2019 15:02

I wouldnt say an apologist supporter.

I was thinking more of DistanceCall.

MrsBrianWarner · 07/01/2019 15:03
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IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 07/01/2019 15:06

It’s hard. My husband and I are fighting the same thing, I love him and respect him but I am definitely tired of being the one who knows where everything is, buys the milk, gets the flea stuff for the dog etc.

I’m not a perfectionist by any means, but I’m tired of thinking all the time.

DistanceCall · 07/01/2019 15:12

@deydododatdodontdeydo Wow.

Calling someone a gaslighting bastard in the heat of an argument, when the person in question is being maddeningly passive aggressive, is not abuse. I think that term tends to be brought up far too easily.

The OP and her husband are caught up in a toxic relationship. Yes, she's said horrible things, but that's what passive aggression provokes. And that's why I think the OP should leave the relationship, before it gets even uglier.

Doesn't sound like she's going to, though.

LemonBreeland · 07/01/2019 15:17

Honestly there is nothing left to salvage here. It is far too late for counselling when you have already lost all respect for him. He doesn't want to change, he has not even made a real effort to change.

I'm concerned that you don't want to end it as it will feel like a failure and you will be the bad guy. In 10, 20 or 30 years time how much of a failure do you think your life will be if you stay married to this waste of space? You are too young to live in a sexless marriage.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 07/01/2019 15:18

@DistanceCall, OP says in her own words she is borderline abusive and that the language she uses with him is abusive.
What I'm hearing is "yeah, but he made her do it".

MrsBrianWarner · 07/01/2019 15:19

Without sounding mean, you still believe you can fix him.

How many years of your life are you willing to wager youre right?

DistanceCall · 07/01/2019 15:23

@deydododatdodontdeydo Yes, and I think that what she's describing isn't abuse. It's a really bad relationship.

ShesABelter · 07/01/2019 15:43

Sounds completely hopeless. I don't think you can blame all of this on him either. You clearly aren't attracted to him or fancy him or you'd still want to be intimate despite him not tidying. I can't get my head around one partner withholding sex for five years. I think you both have your faults and sound incompatible. You are both too young to live like this.

NellieDavie · 07/01/2019 18:07

I'm following your thread with interest @Petsr4life. I'm in a similar pickle myself - (very) long term relationship with someone who is a lovely person, but isn't making me happy, and would in fact say is making me unhappy. He has many flaws, as do I, and we've bumbled along fine until the last few years where I'm getting more and more frustrated at having to do all the thinking, planning, organising etc. On top of this, I'm also the main earner, so I can't even credit him with paying the bills. I think also stupidly part of the reason I haven't called it a day is that I'd have to tell him to leave (he wouldn't be able to nor want to stay on where we are currently - which is rented - whilst I would) and I don't want to e turfing him out on the street! I know in the long term he'd be fine, but the complication of a couple of decades of lives entwined, that my family love him (he really is a nice person) despite him clearly being pretty useless when it comes to 'providing' for me leaving me exhausted and stressed from working too much, and then where would he go with all his things - just makes my head hurt thinking about it and I keep sucking it up but feel it's turning me into a horrible, unhappy, blameful and bitter person.

Motoko · 07/01/2019 18:32

Why would you willingly carry on like this? Because by staying, you're making the choice to stay. And I'm asking NellieDavie and Rednaxela as well as OP.

Nellie, he will sort himself out, and if he's such a lovely man, you can still stay friends. But don't condemn yourself to a life of unfulfillment and unhappiness. There's no need to be a martyr.

Rednaxela god, your relationship sounds fucking awful as well. No, marriage is not always worth fighting for.

So many martyrs.

Snog · 09/01/2019 09:39

It's hard to believe that you'd contemplate staying in this relationship tbh.
It sounds really toxic for you.

Rednaxela · 09/01/2019 12:58

Not a martyr. Sad yes. Bitter sometimes.

I don't believe any relationship I could have would be free from conflict, stress, disappointment. I'm not the easiest person in the world, I know DH has disappointment in my capabilities as well.

Fundamentally we enjoy one another's company. I refuse to let the grind of life overwhelm that. The reality is if we lived in a mansion with a chef, cleaner and accountant, about 80% of the conflict would vanish!

20% would remain, and that is the valuable conflict. Dreams, values, figuring out how to live as individuals and a family.

I don't want the mundane details of life to be the reason for losing my DH. Can't get the staff, refuse to do it all myself so the alternative is to fight.

I watched my mother lose her husband, me and my siblings over the mundane details of life, being a passive aggressive matryr day in day out. It's not for me.

lostelephant · 09/01/2019 16:48

Relationships are about making compromises for one another, but from what you've described I'd say that you are both too different from each other to ever be truly happy.

MrsBrianWarner · 09/01/2019 17:12

Hmmmm.

If the 80% is related to the grind of life, the 20% is what exactly?

I wont be sad or bitter for a relationship again. Why should my short time on this planet be infected like that by someone else?

Not when i am happy either on my own or in a good relationship that is enriching and rewarding.

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