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AIBU to leave my ok DH

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Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:11

I'm soon to be 40 and have been married 10 years. No DC, 1 cat. My DH and I haven't had sex in 5. He wants to, I don't. The reason I don't want to is because I resent him for hundreds of little things that have happened in our relationship. Stupid, petty things, like me asking him to do something (e.g.put laundry away) and him saying he will, later, then never doing it. He's always preferred an easy life, always been the more laid back one, whilst I've always been the one who keeps things running, who ensures the cat is flead, the hotel is booked in time before it gets super expensive, MOT is booked in etc. He leaves things until last minute and then does a bad job, not because he can't do things properly but because he's essentially a bit lazy. We have had the same argument 1000s of times:

Me: 'please do this'. Him: 'in a bit'. Me, days later: 'why haven't you done it'. Him: some sort of excuse. Me getting angry and/or upset. It always ends in him apologising and promising to do better.

It's gotten to the point that I don't trust him at all anymore and I've said some truly hurtful things to him (name calling), because I've lost respect. He gets angry because I don't trust him. He also gaslights me. Minor gaslighting tbh but he'll claim I never asked him to do something, or that he told me he would do it - insert day - and that I must have misheard him etc. All lies to cover his back. He will always eventually admit he lied, after me insisting he stops gaslighting me. But by that point we've had a massive argument and we're both upset. We argue daily.

He's not a bad man and I often wonder if I were more easy-going we could have a great marriage. And he has actually improved a lot since we first met. We do housework 50-50 now (though I am still the manager and he always asks me what needs doing rather than do things off his own bat). He very rarely takes initiative. I feel like I don't respect him anymore, that I am the only adult in this relationship. I keep thinking if I only could have sex with him May be we could work things out. But, much as I like him and he is a great friend (we have the same sense of humour and want the same things out of life) the thought of sleeping with imo a manchild fills me with disgust.

I have brought up divorce a number of times but he won't hear of it. He says we can fix this and that we can't throw what we have away. But aren't we too young to stay in a sexless marriage? He's not happy because he has a wife with an incredibly sharp tongue and I'm not happy because I feel there is no going back.

I am terrified of leaving and realising I've made a terrible mistake. I am terrified of going through life (and dying!) on my own (practically no family left and friends are scattered across UK). What's to say the same won't happen again if I do find someone else (in my 40s which I'm sure is hard enough). And maybe it's me, maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist, too controlling, and if only I could let go a bit, things would be ok, eventually?

Do I stay or do I go?

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DistanceCall · 07/01/2019 12:19

Doesn't call me names when we argue, isn't mean with money (we both earn ok but he earns more, we pay bills etc. proportionally), makes my lunch for me (I spend a lot more time commuting and thus away from the home).

For god's sake, woman. That's the MINIMUM. That's NORMAL. Don't stay in a marriage that is going nowhere, throwing your life away, just because he isn't a monster.

Petsr4life · 07/01/2019 12:38

But I DO call him names. Gaslighting bastard for example. Didn't use to but it's so exasperating having the same argument all the time. I'm pretty sure I've eroded his confidence with my sniping over the years. I hate that. I'm even wondering whether he only wants to stay because of Stockholm syndrome! And yet I can't stop treating him like a child, because he behaves like one. Horrible vicious cycle.

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Quartz2208 · 07/01/2019 12:43

Does he really gaslight or is he scared of your reaction so he will claim not to have heard because he knows what will happen if he again admits he hasnt

OP with the stockholm syndrome comment you are painting yourself as the abuser - do you feel that you are abusive towards him

DistanceCall · 07/01/2019 12:45

You've called him a gaslighting bastard because he DOES gaslight you, and it's exasperating. He's extremely passive aggressive - which is by far worse than being just outright aggressive, because it's so insidious, it makes you doubt yourself and question your senses and your feelings, and guilts you into staying. Which in turns makes you (understandably) lash out in desperation, and it's a vicious circle.

Put an end to this. This is not a good or a healthy relationship.

FadedRed · 07/01/2019 13:13

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/mustbethistalltoride.com/2016/01/14/she-divorced-me-because-i-left-dishes-by-the-sink/amp/
Does this sum up how your relationship feels? It’s about respect. Mutual respect. At the start of a relationship, both people make an effort, but after years in a relationship then that ‘effort’ should have become the norm. Being mutually respectful of each other should not take an effort, it should be the normal way to behave.

Deadbudgie · 07/01/2019 13:24

I think you have unrealistic expectations of your DH. He’s clearly a last minute guy. Some people are. You sound like a bit of a nag tbh. In many relationships there are the leader and the follower. It’s often what makes things work.

Would you be happy in a different relationship where someone else took charge and made decisions? Eg booked a hotel without input from you? Put washing away in the “wrong” place. Told you when things had to be done by? Probably not.

You say he’s improved, but what you really mean is he’s given into your requirements and priorities. He’s probably not bothered by washing waiting to be put away.

If you want to work on this you need to get away from the position that your way is the right way and find a mutually agreeable position

Allthewaves · 07/01/2019 13:26

Relationship counselling can help you decide if u want to stay together or not and if not they can help you negotiate through the break up

MrsBrianWarner · 07/01/2019 13:30

I had one like this.

I am so relieved not to be someones mum (other than to my children of course) anymore

The frustration it caused. Infuriating bull shit all the time and the fucking Herculean effort to manifest a tiny effort from him. I wanted to kill by the end

I hated him for it. Lost respect. Felt contempt. No trust in him. Rrrrraahhhh

Just a total wind up. Even writing this has reminded me and started to rile me up.

It was so bad. A weak jelly of a man. No spine.

Leave. You wont regret it

DistanceCall · 07/01/2019 13:45

Deadbudgie, this

"Me: 'please do this'. Him: 'in a bit'. Me, days later: 'why haven't you done it'. Him: some sort of excuse. Me getting angry and/or upset. It always ends in him apologising and promising to do better."

is not a "last-minute guy". It's a "do-nothing guy".

Motoko · 07/01/2019 13:46

OP, leave. You don't need his permission to divorce him. I suspect he doesn't want to divorce, because then he would need to be in charge of his life. Instead, he just defers everything to you.

Don't worry about being on your own. Without having to carry his dead weight, you will feel lighter and happier. You will also most likely meet someone else in the future. People start new relationships at all ages, even pensioners, so you're unlikely to be on your own forever. And you're only 40. My friend met her partner at 40.

End it. Don't bother with counselling, your relationship isn't worth saving.

Petsr4life · 07/01/2019 13:50

I absolutely wonder whether I am abusive. I think it's borderline. My language has become abusive and my expectations unrealistic because I have lost respect and am resentful. I hate who I've become. But when he breaks yet another promise, or gets angry at me for not trusting he will remember to do X chore despite having already forgotten multiple times, I actually hate him in that moment. It adds to my mental load so much and he doesn't seem to care, even though he claims he does. Though if he did, he could make my life so much easier by just writing things in his diary. Which he does sometimes (so I know he's capable). But most of the time he says he doesn't need to, that he'll remember. At that point I know that he's put it back on my plate. I've reached breaking point.

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rookiemere · 07/01/2019 13:51

If you've not had sex in 5 years then you're effectively housemates rather than spouses anyway. Are you sure that he has actually been celibate for that length of time?
Anyway sounds like the marriage is dead and buried. Split if that's what you want to do.

DistanceCall · 07/01/2019 13:53

OP, he's shown you, over and over and over in the last five years, that he isn't willing to change anything. You can take a horse to the water but you can't make it drink.

There's nothing you can do here. So your choice now: stay and be miserable for the rest of your life, or change what you can change.

Figgygal · 07/01/2019 13:55

Based on your updates I'd leave There's nothing healthy or loving left there from what you say

Yes counselling to help you come to the decision or maybe to help him if you feel you need to be kind

MrsBrianWarner · 07/01/2019 13:58

I lost it at the end nuclear style. It drives you nuts and i totally get it. You turn into a person you dont like or even want to be.

I wasnt violent but the things i said to him by the end were not things you could take back and i ranted like a banshee for a significant period. i had no choice by the end. Get it all out or i would have combusted

Once the contempt and lack of respect is there its done.

I do not have this reaction anymore. I am calm. Life is good. There are better men out there.

It will affect your physical and mental health if it hasnt already. It did with me.

Thequaffle · 07/01/2019 14:04

You have a difference of approach to this stuff OP. His approach is laid back, yours isn’t. Neither is wrong. If I were you I would look at what I do like and love about him and just accept that he’s never going to be the organised one.
One practical thing might be to set aside “chores time” once a week and this is the time that the lifemin things are by both of you, together. Then once you’ve both gotten through them you can sit and relax together.

MrsBrianWarner · 07/01/2019 14:05

Its not laid back, sorry

What it really is...he is passive aggressive and doesnt want to do the things he is asked

He views you as a parent, the very person he wants to rebel against

Does he have a strange relationship with his mother and family?

FlippinNora1 · 07/01/2019 14:09

I hate who I've become

This more than anything is why you should leave. You can’t waste your life like that.

lunicorn · 07/01/2019 14:10

If you haven't had sex in 5 years, he is relieving himself somewhere somehow.

waterrat · 07/01/2019 14:12

Blimey op ..you only get one life! Go and live it.

lunicorn · 07/01/2019 14:14

And just think, no kids! You're free to work and live where you want to.
If it was me, I'd split and go and live in a hot country by the sea.

Petsr4life · 07/01/2019 14:20

I'd rather change within the marriage than leave it and feel I've failed. This might sound horrible but if he hit me it might be easier to leave, as it's more black and white. If I'm the bad guy I should try and change shouldn't I? But I can't work it out. I agree with most people on here, even if the opinions are contradictory. On the one hand I'm asking too much and on the other hand he should make more effort. It's hard to see what's really going on when you're in the midst of it. I'm not looking forward to selling the house, trying to find somewhere that takes a cat (not leaving her behind or giving her up), working out how to sort the Wi-Fi in any new place... Stupid things like that.

I know I'm catastrophic but I imagine myself sitting in a mouldy bedsit, alone forever, full of regrets!

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Petsr4life · 07/01/2019 14:22

*catastrophising...

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Sonders · 07/01/2019 14:40

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result". If you choose not to pursue counselling and choose not to change your approach to your husband, nothing will change.

I'm not saying you need to make those choices, but you can't expect your life to magically get better when it sounds like you're become a person even you don't like.

Either accept that to save your marriage you (and your husband) need to make different choices - or walk away and don't waste any more emotional, mental and physical energy on such a crappy relationship.

waterrat · 07/01/2019 14:42

God.op you don't love him that's the reason to leave. Let him move on and go and build a new better life

You sound as though you have extremely low to xpectatipns of relationships - is this from your own family? Or did they teavh you you have to be unhappy to make it work ?

Get some counselling and talk through why on earth you are staying with someone you don't want to have sex with and barely like when there are no kids involved