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AIBU to leave my ok DH

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Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:11

I'm soon to be 40 and have been married 10 years. No DC, 1 cat. My DH and I haven't had sex in 5. He wants to, I don't. The reason I don't want to is because I resent him for hundreds of little things that have happened in our relationship. Stupid, petty things, like me asking him to do something (e.g.put laundry away) and him saying he will, later, then never doing it. He's always preferred an easy life, always been the more laid back one, whilst I've always been the one who keeps things running, who ensures the cat is flead, the hotel is booked in time before it gets super expensive, MOT is booked in etc. He leaves things until last minute and then does a bad job, not because he can't do things properly but because he's essentially a bit lazy. We have had the same argument 1000s of times:

Me: 'please do this'. Him: 'in a bit'. Me, days later: 'why haven't you done it'. Him: some sort of excuse. Me getting angry and/or upset. It always ends in him apologising and promising to do better.

It's gotten to the point that I don't trust him at all anymore and I've said some truly hurtful things to him (name calling), because I've lost respect. He gets angry because I don't trust him. He also gaslights me. Minor gaslighting tbh but he'll claim I never asked him to do something, or that he told me he would do it - insert day - and that I must have misheard him etc. All lies to cover his back. He will always eventually admit he lied, after me insisting he stops gaslighting me. But by that point we've had a massive argument and we're both upset. We argue daily.

He's not a bad man and I often wonder if I were more easy-going we could have a great marriage. And he has actually improved a lot since we first met. We do housework 50-50 now (though I am still the manager and he always asks me what needs doing rather than do things off his own bat). He very rarely takes initiative. I feel like I don't respect him anymore, that I am the only adult in this relationship. I keep thinking if I only could have sex with him May be we could work things out. But, much as I like him and he is a great friend (we have the same sense of humour and want the same things out of life) the thought of sleeping with imo a manchild fills me with disgust.

I have brought up divorce a number of times but he won't hear of it. He says we can fix this and that we can't throw what we have away. But aren't we too young to stay in a sexless marriage? He's not happy because he has a wife with an incredibly sharp tongue and I'm not happy because I feel there is no going back.

I am terrified of leaving and realising I've made a terrible mistake. I am terrified of going through life (and dying!) on my own (practically no family left and friends are scattered across UK). What's to say the same won't happen again if I do find someone else (in my 40s which I'm sure is hard enough). And maybe it's me, maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist, too controlling, and if only I could let go a bit, things would be ok, eventually?

Do I stay or do I go?

OP posts:
madcatladyforever · 06/01/2019 10:17

Sorry he's lazy and idle, he has no intention of changing and he wants to sit about while you are his maid.
There is no future in this and you have lost all respect for him.
I couldn't be with a person like that, my ex husband was the same. I also went right off sex because I couldn't be bothered to be with someone who never bought me a birthday present or mowed the lawn, he's let me do it despite me being partially disbaled and working full time.
Dump him and make sure he knows why you are doing it.

ThisHasReallyPIssedMeOff · 06/01/2019 10:17

I'm rocking the boat here a little bit I don't think you treat him that well, based on the language you've used. I feel a little sorry for him but I also think you should split.

Aw, poor man.

Do you not see that she wouldn't speak to/about him like that if she weren't so frustrated by his levels of inaction?

Tbh, OP, my ex husband was similar. It destroyed our marriage.

MountPheasant · 06/01/2019 10:17

I’d say it’s ultimatum time. Next time he does it, tell him it’s the last straw- that you’ve been putting up with it for a decade and you can’t anymore.

Point out that he’s said in the past he can fix it- and tell him that if he doesn’t, if it happens just one more time, you’re filing for divorce and you’re serious.

madcatladyforever · 06/01/2019 10:19

And I should say when you are rid of him you will feel amazing. being alone is marvellous. Think of all the things you can do. There is no guarantee you won't die alone anyway, he'll probably go first and you will think why did I waste my life on him!

Amorea · 06/01/2019 10:20

@HugoBearsMummy oh for sure! I'm more motivated naturally (feel shit if I don't get anything 'done') and DH just hasn't got that bone. He'd happily sit around. I wouldn't say he was lazy - when he does jobs it's to a fantastic standard - it's that the idea to DO it that doesn't occur to him.

I manage everything too (finances, household, booking anything and everything) - but I'm starting to pull back, supportively. He can sort his car, his dentist, his jobs. Because you're right, we do it to ourselves! But we're not their mothers. And I have to be at peace with something not being done entirely 'right' ... (Great you booked a restaurant hon!...the day after my brace adjustment so I won't be able to eat....) Grin

StreetwiseHercules · 06/01/2019 10:25

In terms or “we do it to ourselves”, I think that’s often true, but nobody asks you to. It’s a desire to control, and deep anger when it doesn’t go as you would like.

That’s not to say that there aren’t many many complete arseholes who should be left on their own of course. There are.

Billben · 06/01/2019 10:26

He will always eventually admit he lied, after me insisting he stops gaslighting me.

There is no way I would stay with him 😡

StreetwiseHercules · 06/01/2019 10:28

Sounds like he doesn’t have a choice but to admit it. If every disagreement is claimed to be “gaslighting” that in itself is gaslighting.

thethoughtfox · 06/01/2019 10:30

The end of a relationship can be death by a thousand paper cuts. Eventually, you can stop loving someone. Is it worth trying counselling to work through this and giving it a 3 month (or whatever) time frame so you feel like you have given him every chance and so he knows how serious you are?

BettyDuMonde · 06/01/2019 10:33

Counselling was good for us because it helped us break up in a healthy way and I learned a lot about my own past patterns and future needs.

It’s definitely worth giving it a go, even if it ends up being the thing that gives you the permission to leave you might currently be seeking.

Seaweed42 · 06/01/2019 10:37

I'm puzzled about something. You don't mention children or how either of you feel about the possibility of children. You are 40. You stopped having sex with him at age 35.
What's the story there, is there more to this?

Grace212 · 06/01/2019 10:38

what are the positives in the relationship, that's not something you've mentioned. I can totally see why a manchild is not attractive.

bumblingbovine49 · 06/01/2019 10:39

The thing is . Imagine being married to someone who constantly tells you, that you are not good enough the way you are. How would that feel?

I mean I get that he is lazier than you and less organised but if you really wanted him to change that a bit, you would reduce your expectations and try appreciate his efforts, even if they are not much.
Nobody who is constantly criticised gives their best, they just don.t

Essentially you married someone who has less energy and get up and go that you have. You may now realise that this does not suit you and you don't love him enough to get past it , in which case , try to let home go as kindly as possible. You made a mistake in marrying him, that is OK to admit.

Or you might want to work on getting your husband to understand that he does need to try a bit more and to attempt to be more organised etc but you also need to accept that he is unlikely to deliver everything you want on that front and appreciate the efforts he does make (if any)

Of course he may not love you enough to even try to deliver some of it, in which case you can't do anything about that, so you may decide to leave anyway

Only you and your husband can decide between you if your marriage is worth enough to both of you for him to change a bit and for you to lower your expectations a bit

TheDogAteMySock · 06/01/2019 10:40

I had exactly the same scenario, right down to not wanting to have sex because of feeling resentful for having to do everything, of at least manage everything. He also used to gaslight and lie to me, it got to a point where I used to set little traps to catch him out. For example, he'd agree to walk the dog while I was at work, so I'd tie the dog lead up in such a way that I'd know if it had been used or not. Then I'd ask if he'd walked the dog and when he said yes, i'd know he was lying. Eventually, I divorced him and although I sometimes wonder if I did the right thing, because he had some good points, I now realise how very angry I had been, whilst living with him, and how much happier, generally, I am without him.

HugoBearsMummy · 06/01/2019 10:41

@Amorea haha it sounds like we have such similar relationships with our OH's! Like yours mine is no way lazy he's currently renovating our property working 7 days a week, and will do things if he's asked but I've told him it's the having to ask that cheeses me off & he agrees I shouldn't need to ask but he has perhaps got a bit complacent because I usually just 'do things' so he doesn't need to lol Hmm. I think communication is key because resentment is an absolute killer in a relationship and no one wants to feel they have to Mother their OH...

ILoveAllRainbows · 06/01/2019 10:45

My husband was similar.

If the main problem is that he won't do things straight away and then denies that you asked him at all, then send me a text after you have asked him to do the task.

He then can't deny that you asked him to do it and it will act as a reminder to do it.

EverlyNow · 06/01/2019 10:47

^Imagine being married to someone who constantly tells you, that you are not good enough the way you are. How would that feel?^”

I need to remember this. I’m on the opposite side to OP with a DH who nags incessantly. It’s draining and has eroded nearly all of the warmth/love/affection/attraction I feel towards him. We co-parent our beautiful DC and co-habit in our beautiful house, but I think that’s about it

Amorea · 06/01/2019 10:47

@HugoBearsMummy I've said the exact same sentence 'i don't want to ask you...I feel like a nag!'

To do lists don't work either.

I must say, he's never lied or gaslighted me. He's so supportive and such a kind person. It frustrates the fuck out of me, but I think it's hard for him living with a motivated person too. I'm really annoying too.

Marriage hey!

Good luck with your rennovations, they add an extra oh so lovely slice of stress!

OP, I do feel your frustration and I don't think you're being unreasonable to consider leaving. The thing is, as much as he promises, he can't change. And you shouldn't have to be unhappy, deep down if you feel he's wrong for you, listen to your gut. X

ILoveAllRainbows · 06/01/2019 10:47
  • Obviously send HIM a text, not me!
HugoBearsMummy · 06/01/2019 10:55

@Amorea oh yeah I feel the same it must be annoying to be asked to do something straight away , almost like a child ! When really waiting 10 mins to let someone's food go down before them packing the dishwasher isn't that big a deal lol 😂.

Everyone has good and bad points no-ones perfect. But no he doesn't lie to me or gaslight me, I've just enabled him to become a bit of a slob round the house lol! But he's deffo picked up the pace & helped out a lot since our talk.

Good luck OP, your situation sounds different & I don't think I'd blame you for leaving. 5 years without intimacy isn't the norm if you are still both sexual people. Sometimes there's too much water under the bridge.

championquartz · 06/01/2019 11:03

Your OP reminds me of this post I read years ago. Here

I don’t know what you should do (obvs) but it might be worthwhile teasing it out with a therapist? Like many women, at times DH pisses me off more than any human could possibly piss me off, but living with someone is hard and we manage. Gaslighting is quite different tho.

As a pp said, of course he doesn’t want a divorce, he has everything he needs right now. Try not to mother him. Let him do stuff, let him manage his own life. And see.

wiltingflower · 06/01/2019 11:07

LTB.

You are not happy and have been thinking about divorce for some time now. It seems that you are seeking reassurance to divorce- you can do this.

You have asked your husband to do things. He does not or else does the job poorly. You have suggested a way to remember to do things (writing it down). He has not taken this on board nor come up with any other solution to remember to do things and has fallen into a consistent pattern of not doing as asked to. This is unreasonable of him. You can divorce over this.

His inaction has led to you resenting him to the point where you cannot have a romantic/emotional/sexual side to your relationship? If you do not love your husband and there is no romance, what do you have in this marriage to help you get through the tough parts of it? If there is no fun or fulfillment in this relationship, it is ok to divorce.

It is ok to not have sex with someone you don't want to have it with- even if that person is your husband. You need to feel comfortable for sex.

His lying is unreasonable.
His gaslighting is unreasonable.
If you are doing the majority of the housework, it is unreasonable.
If you are doing the majority of the emotional side to the relationship, it is unreasonable.

Minta85 · 06/01/2019 11:07

Get a divorce OP. You are married to someone who has opted out of being a responsible adult and genuine life partner, and who is also a manipulative liar. This is vastly different from him just being ‘more laid-back/relaxed’ than you. He won’t change. You’ll feel so much happier once you’re rid of him.

HisBetterHalf · 06/01/2019 11:24

You cant ask strangers on an internet forum what to do about your marriage

PaintingOwls · 06/01/2019 11:27

He's not a bad man and I often wonder if I were more easy-going we could have a great marriage.

You mean if you were the perfect housewife who did all the shitwork?

I honestly don't see why you would want to remain in a relationship where you are stressed, arguing and abstinent.

Don't fall for the sunken costs fallacy. Yes you've got him to do basic household chores - but at what cost to your stress levels and mental health? Take the cat and end it.