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AIBU to leave my ok DH

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Petsr4life · 06/01/2019 09:11

I'm soon to be 40 and have been married 10 years. No DC, 1 cat. My DH and I haven't had sex in 5. He wants to, I don't. The reason I don't want to is because I resent him for hundreds of little things that have happened in our relationship. Stupid, petty things, like me asking him to do something (e.g.put laundry away) and him saying he will, later, then never doing it. He's always preferred an easy life, always been the more laid back one, whilst I've always been the one who keeps things running, who ensures the cat is flead, the hotel is booked in time before it gets super expensive, MOT is booked in etc. He leaves things until last minute and then does a bad job, not because he can't do things properly but because he's essentially a bit lazy. We have had the same argument 1000s of times:

Me: 'please do this'. Him: 'in a bit'. Me, days later: 'why haven't you done it'. Him: some sort of excuse. Me getting angry and/or upset. It always ends in him apologising and promising to do better.

It's gotten to the point that I don't trust him at all anymore and I've said some truly hurtful things to him (name calling), because I've lost respect. He gets angry because I don't trust him. He also gaslights me. Minor gaslighting tbh but he'll claim I never asked him to do something, or that he told me he would do it - insert day - and that I must have misheard him etc. All lies to cover his back. He will always eventually admit he lied, after me insisting he stops gaslighting me. But by that point we've had a massive argument and we're both upset. We argue daily.

He's not a bad man and I often wonder if I were more easy-going we could have a great marriage. And he has actually improved a lot since we first met. We do housework 50-50 now (though I am still the manager and he always asks me what needs doing rather than do things off his own bat). He very rarely takes initiative. I feel like I don't respect him anymore, that I am the only adult in this relationship. I keep thinking if I only could have sex with him May be we could work things out. But, much as I like him and he is a great friend (we have the same sense of humour and want the same things out of life) the thought of sleeping with imo a manchild fills me with disgust.

I have brought up divorce a number of times but he won't hear of it. He says we can fix this and that we can't throw what we have away. But aren't we too young to stay in a sexless marriage? He's not happy because he has a wife with an incredibly sharp tongue and I'm not happy because I feel there is no going back.

I am terrified of leaving and realising I've made a terrible mistake. I am terrified of going through life (and dying!) on my own (practically no family left and friends are scattered across UK). What's to say the same won't happen again if I do find someone else (in my 40s which I'm sure is hard enough). And maybe it's me, maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist, too controlling, and if only I could let go a bit, things would be ok, eventually?

Do I stay or do I go?

OP posts:
GertrudeCB · 06/01/2019 09:39

What about a trial separation? It can help focus both partner's minds on what they really want.

ShannonRockallMalin · 06/01/2019 09:40

This sounds exactly like my DH, except I blundered on and had two DC with him and now feel pretty much trapped until maybe I have the courage to leave when they are grown up. I do love him, but I have lost respect for him for the same reasons, he’s just essentially lazy and relies on me to do everything in his life other than his actual paid job.

Trust your instincts and decide now if you want to carry on like this. I think it’s almost harder to make a decision to leave when the problems seem on paper to be so minor and petty (I know they’re not to you). You imagine saying to friends ‘we split up because he didn’t book his MOT’ and it sounds ridiculous but it’s the culmination of those things on a daily basis that becomes unbearable. Good luck OP Flowers

Whowouldathunkit · 06/01/2019 09:41

Just leave. It's not worth it, life is too short. You'll find it difficult to meet anybody at your age.

(that's just reality, people will jump on that statement but it's true. All single men your age will either be divorced with kids or never married in the first place because nobody would say yes to them)

But go. If you do want another relationship you'll find one if you look hard enough.

BabySharkAteMyHamster · 06/01/2019 09:42

Do him a massive favour and leave so he can find someone better.

shaggedthruahedgebackwards · 06/01/2019 09:48

It sounds like you are essentially incompatible and the lack of sex has gone on for too long to be resolved.

I suspect you would both be happier apart

WhiteDust · 06/01/2019 09:48

It sounds like you want to leave but are scared of being on your own.
You say 'I do criticise him. All the time these days' so I wonder if he feels the same? Sounds like he's given up.

Corroboree · 06/01/2019 09:52

Please don't have children with this man- it will get worse and worse, he isn't going to change his ways now. Like the poster above, I have small children, but my husband is the same as yours. We will be separating this year because I cannot take the load any more.

DistanceCall · 06/01/2019 09:52

He hasn't acted in 5 years. That tells you everything you need to know.

You don't love each other. This isn't a relationship. Go.

DistanceCall · 06/01/2019 09:53

You'll find it difficult to meet anybody at your age. (that's just reality, people will jump on that statement but it's true. All single men your age will either be divorced with kids or never married in the first place because nobody would say yes to them)

Because you can't have a relationship with people who have kids?

luckylavender · 06/01/2019 09:55

I'm rocking the boat here a little bit I don't think you treat him that well, based on the language you've used. I feel a little sorry for him but I also think you should split.

Mary1935 · 06/01/2019 09:55

Hi OP google The four horsemen if the apocalypse - it’s to do with family therapy and relationships.
Have you ever not rescued him and left him with the consequences.
Have you googled Wifework - there have been lots of threads in here in the past.
Good luck.

whereiwanttobe · 06/01/2019 10:00

40 is very young to settle for a marriage that no longer makes you happy. You could live another 40 years or more this way, do you really want that? I left my ex when I was almost ten years older than you and it had got to the point where I honestly could not face another 30 years of resentment, nagging, no sex and sniping, it was miserable.

I'm now 5 years into a happy, respectful, loving relationship, that could be you too. Be brave.

awesmum · 06/01/2019 10:03

if you're unsure of which way to go I would go to councilling. Then if you decide to leave you've explored every avenue with an independent person.

Windgate · 06/01/2019 10:03

Counselling might be very useful, not so much to save the relationship but to help end it. He's too lazy to divorce but nothing is stopping you from getting on with it.

Also stop enabling his laziness, don't do any cooking, shopping or laundry for him. If you have your own car let him take responsibility for his vehicle. Minimise the mental load.

chocatoo · 06/01/2019 10:04

Why should he change to be what you want? Maybe you should change to be less bossy. My DH would get fed up with being nagged and dig his heels in. I am trying to say that everything has a flip side - what you feel is being organised could be really controlling.
I would say that you should work a bit harder to try to save your relationship.
You need to celebrate your differences - look at your husband's strengths. What attracted you in the first place.
If you leave him you might end up with someone who is super organised like you but you could find that you miss other qualities of your DH. Definitely try some counselling. Let us know how it goes. Good luck.

Quartz2208 · 06/01/2019 10:06

In order for it to work you would both need to change - you cant expect him to change for you and I dont think you can change either.

This is toxic for both of you

HugoBearsMummy · 06/01/2019 10:07

@Amorea , do you think that people like us (the organised ones) sometimes make a rod for our own backs? Just because I've been with DH 5 & half years, married for 7 months, and have 3yr old DS, and one on the way due in 7 weeks. I've ALWAYS done the majority of the admin for the home because I'm a bit of a control freak & would rather do something myself then risk it not being done right /at all lol. Also booking hotels etc, I like to read reviews, see what location is like etc etc whereas DH is spontaneous & would book something & see what it's like when he gets there Confused! And tidying up etc I like things to be PRISTINE & done RIGHT NOW! Whereas DH doesn't mind the house being a little more 'lived in' & doesn't see the urgency of cleaning up straight away after dinner etc... so I'd end up literally finishing my mouthful & Start clearing straight away, meaning I don't really give him chance to do it... I think over the years I've enabled him to not do much, and now I'm heavily pregnant & have a Toddler & I need help he kind of forgets! We had a huge row & I ended up telling him how resentful I'm getting of him amongst other things & he was completely shocked & gutted & since has tried much harder... don't know I just think sometimes people's personalities are different & the more organised person (ie me!) takes up the workload because perhaps our flaw is were a bit anal ? Lol. That's just my experience..

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 06/01/2019 10:07

His life sounds pretty miserable too tbf.

SilverBirchTree · 06/01/2019 10:12

Maybe try counseling first

ResistanceIsNecessary · 06/01/2019 10:12

But he's not "OK" is he? And neither are you. You aren't suited to each other. And it's fine to not be suited to each other. Out there will be a woman who is very laid back and un-bothered by the things that are driving you mad. And there will also be a man who is organised and makes you feel valued and respected.

You don't have to have a big and dramatic reason for leaving a relationship - not being happy is reason enough.

AnoukSpirit · 06/01/2019 10:13

He gaslights you and manipulates you, but you're placing the blame entirely within yourself and calling yourself controlling? Where did you get the idea wanted to be respected was controlling? Is that what he tells you when you call him out on his gaslighting and manipulation? That you're controlling?

No decent counsellor would see you for joint therapy where one partner is engaging in gaslighting and manipulation. The gaslighting party would just use it to gain more tactics. You don't gaslight somebody by accident.

There is a significant difference between someone who's laid back and someone who deliberately ignores things they should have done and/or does such a terrible job of them that you end up giving in and doing it yourself. The latter person is being manipulative and controlling to get their own way. Which one is he?

A decent but imperfect partner would listen to your feelings and frustration, would recognise their behaviour was unfair, and would make efforts to change it that lasted. A manipulative partner would promise to change, make a half hearted effort, and then immediately go back to how they were before and blame you for it. Which one is he?

Anybody who's been living the way you have and being treated the way you have for such a long time would be feeling frustrated and unhappy. The fact your frustration at his behaviour boils over doesn't make you the cause of it, it makes you a human being who recognises on some level that she deserves to be treated better than this.

Of course he doesn't want a divorce; he's got everything just the way he wants it. He knows just what to say and do to get his own way, to undermine your own judgement, and to con you into staying in the hope he'll change. (He won't. This is how he wants it.)

This is no way to live for you though, and you deserve better. You deserve to be happy, you deserve to be with someone who respects you and treats you right, and you don't deserve to be gas lighted and manipulated.

If you stay with him there is no possibility of things changing for the better. If you leave the world is full of potential for you.

StreetwiseHercules · 06/01/2019 10:13

It seems like you tell this guy what to do a lot and you get annoyed when he doesn’t comply exactly as you would like.

How would you feel if he was issuing you with instructions? How often does he ask you to do things and do you feel pressure to comply?

eddielizzard · 06/01/2019 10:14

You're both miserable.

I have a practical suggestion that helped us since our marriage was a lot like yours early on. We are responsible for tasks and the other doesn't get involved. So you take the 'management' out of situation. Eg DH is in charge of rubbish. You absolutely do not get involved no matter what. There is no room for excuse because it's clearly defined and if it's not been done, it's his responsibility. Not your problem. His mum comes over and there's rubbish everywhere? 'Oh DH has forgotten to take the rubbish out.' You are teflon woman.

But tbh if you have no respect, it's very hard to get that back. Counselling may help. Depends on how badly you both want to make it work.

Lovemusic33 · 06/01/2019 10:14

I spilt with my husband for similar reasons, nothing huge, just lots of little things which ended up with me not really liking him at all. Eventually I talked to him, he promised to change and for a while he did change, he actually tried really hard but sadly the damage was already done and I felt nothing towards him so I ended it. We have children together so it was a hard decision, if we hadn’t have had kids I think I would have left a long time ago. You don’t need a major reason to leave, if it’s not working then it’s not working but if you feel it can be fixed then maybe marriage counselling might be worth a try.

sonjadog · 06/01/2019 10:15

This sounds miserable for both of you and that this relationship really has run its course. I would end it. What's the point in keeping going, really? Even if you are on your own, you will be living in a situation without someone who is getting you down, and without the arguments and frustrations.