Feeding my kids raw chicken??

[NotUmbongoUnchained]

I don’t really know how to react to this, I fact I didn’t react at all I just took my kids, said goodbye and left.

A school mum has offered to have my kids over for lunch so I could attend an appointment today. Really nice of her, really appreciate it.

When I went to get them they were eating still and I went to sit with them at the table to see my two year old about to stick a piece of pink slimy chicken into his mouth. I made him give it to me then noticed that all the kids had undercooked chicken on their plates. I pointed this out to their mum and she laughed and said “Oh yeah they were really hungry and I didn’t have time to cook the drumsticks through properly so I just pulled all the bits that looked cooked off the bone.”

Aibu to think she’s a fucking idiot?? I was so stunned I just said we needed to go! Hoping they don’t get food poisoning

My understanding is that pork used to have to be very well cooked to ensure any tapeworm it carried was killed. Modern farming methods have eliminated the danger of tapeworm so pork can now be served less well done and is often more tender that way.

Well what else could he advise?

He could blue light them to hospital and quarantine the town with an option to nuke from orbit. That would mean that this woman couldn't be reported to social services and sadly, her children would die, but it's the only way to be sure.

@Blueeyedbengal the little boy was Mason Jones. The butcher was William Tudor from John Tudor & Sons in Bridgend. It was an appalling case of deliberate cross contamination. I say deliberate because he used the same vacuum packer for both raw and cooked food. It was E.coli that broke out.
I hope the OPs children will be well. The lack of knowledge of food hygiene and safety in this day and age never ceases to amaze me. There was the thread with the 7 or 8 day old ham. Lots of posters saying that it would be fine to eat despite people linking to Food Standards agency advice. Its fine to be unaware but to dismiss expert advice once made aware makes me

Hoop where is the evidence of medium rare being fine? Are you on glue?

I've had campylobacta from a meal not containing chicken (curry house since closed down). I also ate undercooked chicken and didn't get it. Hopefully they will be ok.

Not much can be done in any case. Try not to pass on anxiety to them. For me it started with a raging fever

The flesh near the thigh and leg bone is usually quite a deep pinkish red. Only when you cook it to buggery does it become less pink.

It's horrifying to think that someone who is of an age to have children is unaware that raw chicken can be bloody lethal! OP you need to have a polite but frank chat with her. Or hope that she is a mumsnetter and is now cringing with embarrassment but better informed for the future.

As an aside, when DS was 3 he got diarrhoea for over a week so the doctor took a sample for testing. I had an Environmental health officer turn up the next day to visit us. She said he had tested positive for Campylobacter AND Cryptosporidium. She wanted to know every single place he had been in the last 9 days, what he had eaten, if anyone else was infected and she wanted a sample of his vomit if possible 🤢. She was astounded that he hadn't been sick once and was happily running around (though with frequent bathroom visits and emergency pull ups on. She said his readings were very, very high. We lived on the edge of a farm and all we can think is that he came in contact with animal dung and didn't wash his hands. We never found the campylobacter cause as he'd eaten everything we had and I cook my meats well. He was bloody lucky, campylobacter is no joke.

Hoop medium rare chicken ON THE BONE is absolutely not ok!!!

LimitisUp Current advice is not to wash raw chicken as this can spread droplets of contamination across the kitchen, but as donajimena points out, a lot of people haven't yet caught up with this advice.

Hoopaloop did you feed OP’s children undercooked chicken for lunch today?

My DD is 13 and knows better than that!

Ohhh my.
I would be very angry and upset.
She is clearly an idiot and put yours and her own children at risk.
How do they seem?? I think you'd know by now if they had serious food poisoning.

Would it be worth messaging, thanking her for looking after dc but mentioning you're now worried about food poisoning, due to the chicken being semi-cooked. Perhaps she's somehow oblivious to the danger and needs it pointing out, for the kids future safety

Christ this is my worst nightmare! I got salmonella on holiday in my 20s from chicken, I honestly thought I was going to die. I came home 1.5 stone lighter then when I left, and didn't have a lot on me to begin with. I am hyper-vigilant about cooking meat now and use a thermometer religiously to make sure its well above temp.

I've gor everything crossed your children will be ok OP, it can take a few days for symptoms ti develop though so if they are school age maybe give them the heads up so they can call you at the first sign if anything does develop, so they don't have to do a car journey will horrendous d&v. Poor little poppets

think you'd know by now if they had serious food poisoning don't count on that. It was over 48 hours between me eating in the restaurant and ne becoming ill, 8 hours after that I was admitted to hospital and was there there for 10 days.

I got campylobacter poisoning from a shop-bought chicken sandwich. The symptoms started about a week later and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

The mind boggles that there are adults out there who isn't aware of the risks of undercooked chicken.

*aren't

Is she mentally challenged? Has she shown signs of being really really thick, or sleep deprived maybe?

She could've just cut the raw meat off of the drumsticks and then either boiled or microwaved it... takes like 5 mins

Sorry I didn’t come back, I went out last night. Kids are fine currently, they’re eating well and are their normal selves. We’ll keep an eye on it for another 48 hours but we reckon they’ll be fine and back to school tomorrow!

Hope the kids are ok. I had campylobacter once and the council official who came to ask me to fill in forms relating to where I’d been asked me to go back 2 weeks as he said that’s how long it could incubate. No idea if true but I had to fill in a lot of places as we’d been all over. So maybe just keep a cautionary level of alertness for 2 weeks just in case.

medium rare chicken is fine ... what??????

Sorry I didn’t come back, I went out last night

Oh, okay. Did you and your doctor husband take your children with you in order to observe them NotUmbongoUnchained - bit of a risk to the other people, don't you think?

Or did you leave them at home even though you were worried about serious food poisoning. If so, I trust you left a lot of pull-up pants with the baby sitter. How many did your doctor husband advise?

About them going to school tomorrow. How would that work in the 48-hour D&V rule? Does your doctor husband think we should ignore that until symptoms set in?

Or does your doctor husband think that someone feeding your children undercooked chicken wasn't really a problem?

@limitedperiodonly are you drunk?

Where did op say she her and her husband went out? She said that she went out. It's entirely reasonable to assume that her husband was at home with his children.

What the fuck is your problem mate.