To think buying a £52 eyeshadow pallet for 9 year old is just madness?

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I'm talking about the James Charles pallet. £52 for eyeshadow and blusher. My DD9 wants to spend her Christmas money on it but I have said a firm NO! A lot of her friends got it for Christmas (I know this is true as have seen their mothers show it off on Facebook). Each to their own and all that but £52! AIBU?

IME, with dd and all her friends anyway, they are not putting make up on and going out to school, shops, classes etc wearing it. It's just something that they play around with in the house (like we all did). It's not as if they are wandering about with a full face of make up on, it's just play. As pp said my dd likes doing my makeup more than using it on herself. Makes for some very interesting looks

I can't believe some people have actually compared a make up palette to DRUGS.

Make up is considered art now, it's not to change your appearance 'for men' and certainly not to sexualise women and young girls, it's offensive to people who spend years studying and perfecting their art and their career for it to be considered as 'sexualisation' this isn't 1950 and do you really think men love a rainbow eye and silver cheeks? (Cause that's the main look for this particular palette)

There's colour theory, skin care and skin condition study, anatomy of the face, ingredients chemicals and allergy study. And that's just the start. Its a genuine career path, and fair enough if you don't want children to be wearing make up out and about, I completely agree, but telling your children make up artistry is for the satisfaction of men and sexualisation is setting them up for some pretty sexist and offensive views.

Nope!!!
My dd’s friend has about 5 of these mega expensive pallets, yet she’s allergic! They know this and her parents keep buying them for her.... Madness! They aren’t that well off and the mother doesn’t wear make up herself- what’s the point?!

Why does a 9 year old need any make up....even to play with ?
Ridiculous.
And disturbing.

Yes, it is madness. If she likes colour and the physical arrangement of a palette, take her to an art shop, or even just The Range and let her choose a good watercolour palette, proper paper and some art stuff for a lot less money. She can build up color mixing, blending and creativity instead. Maybe a trip to Lush for bath bombs or body lotion etc

Oh don't be silly. Talking about make up being art etc.

It might be to some people in the arty world but for most women it's means of making themselves look a bit better than they do without it.

If 9 yr olds want to practise their artistic skills, they can do so in plenty of ways that do not involve putting eye shadow on their faces.

If you don't believe make up has a sexual connotation some of the time, read The Naked Ape and the bit about lipstick.

And stop being naive.

I am on some FB beauty groups and the minimum age is 13. Sometimes you will get 13 year olds on there with 'I really want to be a makeup artist, do you think I've got what it takes' and yes some of them are quite talented and the makeup is amazing (much better than when I was 13!) but they are posing with that sultry mouth slightly open look, and look way older than 13! They are not just smiling and looking like a child who enjoys drawing on their face.

Can't be arsed to read the thread... But basically. She's 9. Not 15. Let her buy a dupe pallette from. Revolution makeup, and spend the money on something else. My sister is a professional makeup artist... And she'd have a shitfit if someone suggested it was ok for a 9 year old to have a James Charles.... He's a racist twat anyway

Personally I would think it's a waste of money - but then I don't wear any makeup. However, I'd let her buy it with her own money - that's the point of her own money she learns the value of it. Once the money is gone don't sub her more though.

Can't be arsed to read the thread

If you could have been arsed, you'd see that she has already bought a much cheaper palette.

Why do 9 year Olds need make up. This is the part I find ridiculous.

It's only a make up palette! It's not anything that we didn't use as young girls. Maybe. It as young as 9 but times are changing! And it's £38 not £50... cheaper than an Xbox game. AND it's the child's Christmas money that she wants to treat herself with. Guaranteed she will be disappointed with the other palettes she bought, and she will have wasted her money anyway!

@healzam they don't NEED makeup they WANT makeup. There's a difference! Girls are getting younger at wanting to try make up what with YouTube etc. It's not as if they're going to wear it to school!!

@KatyWhatsit it USED something used for the Sexualisation of women, yes still is to some degree, but not in this context and in the make up following we're talking about here with £52 palettes. that and 25% of the make up community is made up of men... the palette is literally designed by a homosexual male...

Make up is no longer about red lipstick and pretty eyes, look on YouTube, forums, and what amazing things these women are producing and the kind of art which is being produced.

Shock horror that women can change something negative into something liberating and yes ART. Whaaat? Women can now enjoy making themselves up for themselves??

Also, yes I'm a make up artist. If my mum had let me play at make up instead of telling me how it would turn me into a child prostitute, I would certainly be in a better career position than I am now.

No ones spending £52 on a neon rainbow palette to seduce pervy rick down the street who doesn't understand the difference between eyeliner and mascara....

So because some long dead zoologist said 50 years ago that makeup sexualises its wearer, we have to give it credence. OK. I don't buy it.

@KatyWhatsit woah I read your comment wrong. A bit on the aggressive side from me!

However point still stands, there is some brilliant art out there and the following is way more art based than just making people look pretty. Especially in the high end following.

I find this whole thread odd.... My DD is 11 in April and totally not interested in make up. One or two of her classmates may be (never seen any evidence or heard them talk about it) but not to the extent of spending ridiculous amounts of money on it! Some are interested in boys now and they do the funny innocent 'he's my boyfriend' thing, but it doesn't seem to be linked to looks or image. Phones etc are starting to creep into their wishlists , but surely they can still be kids for a bit longer...?

@Bluelady If you want to dismiss the work of people far more qualified and intelligent than you appear to be, that's up to you.

9 year olds want lots of things. Personally, Id be saying no til the age of 12 or thereabouts. I think it's important to leave them somewhere to go.

You have absolutely no clue about my qualifications, @KatyWhatsit. And you have the dubious honour of being the first person to ever question my intelligence. I absolutely doubt the theory of a zoologist who made a correlation between monkeys' bottoms and lipstick.

Well maybe post some links to your research on the subject bluelady so we can review it for ourselves.

Make-up still IS about sexualisation, as well as being part of modern culture and and fashion. All the videos on youtube are about making women more attractive- attractive to men! Bigger eyes, wider eyes, younger eyes, fuller lips, younger skin, brighter skin, smouldering eyes, cat like eyes, higher cheekbones, defined jaw- you may not realise this about sexual attraction, but it is!

The palette is £39 not £52 from genuine retailers paying that price is crazy, but if that’s what she wants then that’s what she wants. Does she have an iPhone? Or another expensive phone? iPad? Tablet? You/others spent lots on those items for a 9 year old, why not an eyeshadow palette?

Look, you can say it's about sexualisation until the end of time but that's a personal perception, not a fact. I've worn make up on a daily basis for 50 years. I wear it because I look old and ill without it and it's always been for me and nobody else. Ironically a lot of men I know don't like make up.

We had to get it sent over from relatives in America... my daughter adores it and has three of the hoody's and shorts all paid for with her Christmas money or bought as gifts.
She is 11, but incredibly grown up, she doesn't wear make-up out, but does spend a lot of time practicing looks.
She studies, exercises, reads and loves make up... my other daughter loves her Xbox and Fifa & the youngest would spend a small fortune in LOL dolls if given free range to do so! each to their own ❤️