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So much negativity about brexit....

401 replies

newmun · 03/01/2019 08:59

Is anyone looking forward to it? Did anyone who vote leave happy they voted it? Or regretful?

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StoorieHoose · 03/01/2019 19:48

ill take your Vesta curry and raise you a Frey Bentos pie

Buteo · 03/01/2019 19:49

Talkin I’d forgotten about green shield stamps - it was my job to stick them in the book (they tasted pretty horrible).

DM made her own version of Vesta curry - my dad didn’t touch it because being in India towards the end of WW2 gave him a lifelong mistrust of curry.

Buteo · 03/01/2019 19:54

We didn’t have pasta though. Our carbs were strictly bread and potatoes.

Ta1kinPeace · 03/01/2019 19:57

Buteo
Pasta - I lived in central London, we were well posh !
Remember the wine glasses you got in exchange for the stamps :-)
And family hitch-hiking in the weeks we could not afford fuel for the car

drspouse · 03/01/2019 19:58

My mum used to make pizza in the 70s. There's exotic for you.

Moussemoose · 03/01/2019 19:58

I thought all spaghetti came in tin.

Kpo58 · 03/01/2019 20:04

spaghetti is grown from trees. Remember there is a BBC program back in the day all about it. Wink

Buteo · 03/01/2019 20:05

I remember all our squash glasses were collected with Shell vouchers. And we used to fight over the 1970 World Cup coins you could collect from Esso.

Mousse surely spaghetti grew on trees?

So much negativity about brexit....
Ta1kinPeace · 03/01/2019 20:07

Ah, the wonderful Panorama that was then re shown on Nationwide every couple of years

Three channels on the TV - from 3pm to 11pm only and then back to the test card

Switching from Town gas to natural gas

No double glazing, no central heating

Yup, the early 70's were just "great"

countrygirl99 · 03/01/2019 20:07

I'll see your vesta curry and fray bentos and raise you my mother's spaghetti bolognese which was boiled mince and onion 🤢 no tomato, no oregano, no garlic. It was gross but considered almost as exotic as butterscotch angel delight.

Fairylightfurore · 03/01/2019 20:08
Biscuit
RiskIt4Biscuit · 03/01/2019 20:10

I voted leave, but I didn't vote for the shower of shit that we're getting now. Theresa mays deal is an absolute joke.

No, this is exactly what you voted for. You may think you voted for a specific version of Brexit, but as there was no specific Brexit presented to anyone by anyone in power, you voted for Theresa May's deal.
You voted to give the politicians (whoever they would be) a free pass to negotiate whatever deal they felt like - because no promises were made by anyone who actually had any power to make promises.

It is incredibly sad - and people who voted for it must own it.

Zevitevitchofcwsmas · 03/01/2019 20:11

I honestly do not understand the chlorinated chicken argument.
As pp mentioned, if people don't buy it they won't sell it. We don't eat horse meat here like our French neighbours.

Re food quality, it's been done to death on here, the eu has totally inconsistent and almost non existent and certainly toothless food standard checks!
British pig farmers are the best in the world in terms of quality and progressiveness.

You could buy free range pig from the the eu and it's highly likely to not be pig or be bred intensively on some hideous farm

Another thing people don't seem to understand is that whilst it may certainly take a few years to even out the immediate effects of brexit.. Look at the eu.

A whole generation, if not several generations have been thrown under the big fat eu idealistic gravy train. Generations that can't find work, whose governments are helpless to tweak their eccomies to help them.

Whose governments are shackled to what Germany says they should do.
The effect of the joining this next level eu project has been an utter disaster.
I look at the eu and I see terror and chaos.

Maybe in 200 years times it will be a glorious success but after the horrors of ww1 and ww2, the infliction of one nations will on all-nightwear the others.. The horrors of communism and Eastern Europe.. The infliction of one nations will and ideology on the others.. To think anyone has allowed yet another group of Ideologists forcing their will unelected onto Europe again is mind blowing.

Ta1kinPeace · 03/01/2019 20:17

Generations that can't find work, whose governments are helpless to tweak their eccomies to help them.
The EU does not set employment rules.
Hence why the UK has different rules from Greece

British pig farmers are the best in the world in terms of quality and progressiveness.
And a free trade deal with the USA will destroy the lot of them as the USA requires the ending of "location" marking

Moussemoose · 03/01/2019 20:17

THE EU IS A DEMOCRATIC ORGANISATION.

Don't make me explain it again.

Please,please, please stop saying stupid stuff that simply isn't true and then complaining when people say you are stupid.

countrygirl99 · 03/01/2019 20:19

zevit when you buy a ready meal or a takeaway or a sandwich or any other meal out do you know where the meat came from? Possibly if you go to a more upmarket restaurant but most likely not. Do you think they will use more expensive high welfare meat or cheaper chicken raised and butchered in conditions that require chlorine washes? Which meat do you think will be used for school or hospital meals? Do you still not see why it matters?

Cheekysquirrel · 03/01/2019 20:22

I’m really looking forward to there being no insulin and then myself and my dad dying within a few days.
That’ll be awesome.
I’ve actually written letters to my kids to be opened in the event there’s no insulin and I die...

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Buteo · 03/01/2019 20:24

I honestly do not understand the chlorinated chicken argument.

Chicken is rinsed with a chlorinated wash to kill bacteria present due to poor farming practices. Because these chickens are intensively reared they can be sold at cheap rates, which will undercut UK suppliers with higher welfare standards and higher costs.

For UK consumers on a very limited budget, given the choice between (unlabelled) cheap US chicken and expensive UK chicken, what do you think will happen?

The infliction of one nations will and ideology on the others.. To think anyone has allowed yet another group of Ideologists forcing their will unelected onto Europe again is mind blowing.

Sorry - whose will is being inflicted upon whom? Does not each EU member have their head of state or government on the European Council and its own representative in the European Commission? Did they not elect MEPs to represent them?

Cheekysquirrel · 03/01/2019 20:26

Dunno themoomoo but given that life expectancy without insulin is days it’s pretty alarming to think there may be any delay in supplies isn’t it?

Moussemoose · 03/01/2019 20:28

@themoomoo I really hate on MN when posters come up with the 'dead relative' argument but....

A close and dear friend on mine died last year as his type 1 diabetes was unstable.

Fear over a secure supply of insulin is a real concern with frightening consequences. Diabetes is a serious illness. I wouldn't laugh.

Moussemoose · 03/01/2019 20:29

I think Cheekysquirrel it is a real concern to you, other people don't seem as bothered. Unfortunately.

themoomoo · 03/01/2019 20:29

mousse it's hysterical nonsense

themoomoo · 03/01/2019 20:30

mousse sorry about your friend too. It's a terrible illness. I've also lost somebody very close to me through it ( not as a result of brexit though)

Moussemoose · 03/01/2019 20:31

I'm glad you are convinced of that. Please share your expertise with others. I think many people with genuine fears for the health would benefit from the evidence you can provide to back up your stance.

Any links to websites, government reposts, info from big pharma companies. I would genuinely like to see the evidence that supports your confidence.

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