James Bulger

[Monty27]

Hang your head in shame Vincent Lambre.
You low life creep.
Anyone?

I my I've had no sleep @singlepringle had to 're read hat one.

Also, the film Boy A (which launched Andrew Garfield) was based on the tragedy.

He's said this morning that the reason he didn't ask James' mum for permission to write the film is because he knew she wouldn't like it. Vile.

With no sarcasm, how is this any different to a film about any real life murder?

I would say the same about any film about a real life murder that is done without full approval of the family of the victim. Especially one which had its focus on the murderers in the way this one does

I'm pretty sure that anyone of a cerain age would never forget James Bulger's name.

I say again, Boy A was based on the murder (and focused on one of the guilty).

Suppose it depends how it was done. It's a half an hour short film, been released a while, but it's just received a nomination for an Oscar, hence why VL is suddenly on This Morning, gathering attention.

Is it not important that actually, yes, we DO humanise the murderers? If not, isn't it just a case that we are ignoring humanity's ability to commit murder, even as children, thus failing to develop our understanding of the human psyche?

@NameChangerAmI we are talking people in their 40s . Why can't people be made aware of their crime through film. It's a bit like saying ask the victims families of Harold shipman ( Im from that area ) thwre would always be someone who doesn't like what's happening .

I would say the same about any film about a real life murder that is done without full approval of the family of the victim. Especially one which had its focus on the murderers in the way this one does

Agreed.

This director has focussed on trying to humanize the murderers. It's so wrong on so many levels.

Of course no-one will forget.
At least I won't.
Hopefully all the relatives are still alive. Fancy schmoozing up to them to watch the movie with them? Bring out the popcorn.
I hope this great idea the film maker had teaches him a few hard lessons.
I don't think I have seen or heard anything so insensitive

Nothing can ever humanise those two demons who did that to poor little James.

That's why the film is needed. We can't demonise people who commit vile acts. We need to punish them, certainly. But we also need to have some understanding, so we, as a society, can try to avoid, ameliorate, prevent repeated acts.

But however vile their behaviour those 2 boys ARE human. To refute that is just hiding from the reality, which is a bit pointless.

I may not watch the film but I don't think the maker has done anything wrong or immoral!

Denise Bulger has said she will go on a good morning Britain to talk about it. I feel incredibly sad for her that yet again she is overlooked because someone wants a bit of their 5 minutes of fame.

Apologies, Denise Fergus.

the victim was 2 ffs. he was the only victim. I only ever see sympathy for the vile murderers or mn.

This director has focussed on trying to humanize the murderers. It's so wrong on so many levels.

Well, they were and are human. There’s no point in trying to believe they are somehow ‘monsters’ or sub-human. Fact is, this is what humans are capable of.

I think it's totally disrespectful on many levels.
Dehumanise, humanise? Wtf. The poor wee boy was taken and brutally murdered.

Just saw him on GMB but unfortunately the one time when you want Piers Morgan to be on to tear him off a strip he isn't. Ben and Kate were too nice!

Everyone should just boycott the film.

the victim was 2 ffs. he was the only victim. I only ever see sympathy for the vile murderers or mn.

I have not seen any sympathy towards the murderers.
I do see attempts to understand as these were children too and they committed the most evil act but I never see sympathy.

I don’t think demonising the boys who did this was helpful though. The tragedy for the Bulger family is unspeakable but there is also an enormous and terrifying story in the fact two boys so young ended up doing something so abhorrent. If we want to prevent similar we need people to “humanise” them, to ask questions about how this can be prevented in future.

Well, they were and are human. There’s no point in trying to believe they are somehow ‘monsters’ or sub-human. Fact is, this is what humans are capable of
Obviously but why go out of your way to try to give any shred of sympathy to those murderers?

Nothing can ever humanise those two demons who did that to poor little James.

They were two children too. And I don't believe psychopaths are born (all psychopaths come from incredibly dysfunctional families). If the film shows what their families were like to produce that, I'd be interested in watching it, horrifying though it may be.

Not much point boycotting the film, it was released 8 months ago. It's up for an Oscar, that's why you're hearing about it now.

The thing is these type of cases are so few and far between I’m not sure there is any way to understand why they did it. You can’t put it down to an abusive background or anything like that because plenty of people with far worse backgrounds never, ever do anything like that or would contemplate doing so. Also, there have been cases of similar things happening where those involved had perfectly pleasant upbringings.

You can’t put it down to watching violent films or video games. Or being isolated from society - both boys went to a normal school in a normal town, with other “normal” children. They didn’t grow up in a vacuum.

I think all these things do is hurt the victims families, those who have suffered enough. I don’t think there are any answers to be had from this. Some people are just evil. I truly believe that.

Let’s hope nobody on here watches or reads “True Crime”, eh? Or speculates on here with all the other armchair detectives/pathologists/psychiatrists whenever a crime is committed?

My apologies, it was released 11 months ago at a short film festival.