AIBU to think that other than some people being upset or angry, there are no downsides for the UK if Brexit doesn't happen ?

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I can't think of any downsides to the UK not brexiting other than some of the population being upset for a bit. Can anyone else ?

This isn't the main issue now. All the TV pundits seem to think we'll have to ask to extend the deadline on Article 50 anyway. The EU have said that they'd be willing to do this for a specific purpose like a GE or 2nd Ref but not for more negotiations/dithering.

We can revoke Article 50 on our own, but not as a temporary arrangement and that would really piss off the Leavers.

May took a gamble, tried to run down the clock to force the issue in the hope that the dyed in the wool Brexiter MPs would back down or that she'd get some concession over the Irish Backstop. Now it looks as if she's no further forward and time is running out.

She has a choice between going back on her word about leaving on 29/3, or calling a GE/2nd Ref, or resigning. I think she's in total tunnel vision mode, shutting her eyes and ears and just praying for a miracle.

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The age and uneducated thing ive only seen as a statistical fact

The thick is probably a bit more of a personal insult as (as i said) uneducated does not mean thick

I thought it was just didnt have a degree...but i might have that wrong

You should think again, if Brexit doesn't happen that will be the end of democracy in this country

You don’t understand how democracy works.

Anarchy will happen and you'll see bloodshed on our streets

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Remainers are never going to stop throwing their toys out of their prams

Again, check your definition of democracy.

bluejag
I wasn't meaning leave voters were thick I was actually stating that though this is the stereotype lots of well educated people still voted leave 33% of graduates is not nobody it is probably a 2 million plus, I think remainers do their cause no good at all by just saying leave voters are thick old poor and stupid

if you hold a referendum with the promise that you will abide by the result ( both leave and remain said this) you can't change your mind to it being advisory only afterwards and then ignore it

Legally the referendum was advisory. That hasn't changed.

Politicians lying is a different issue.

The referendum legislation stated that it was advisory only. David Cameron said that he would implement whatever the outcome was but immediately broke that promise by resigning. The current govt is not obliged to honour the result if they don’t want to.

I agree , revocation would be the best outcome. But what we really need is some leadership. TM should have the courage to stand up and say; yes it’s a rubbish deal , it leaves us worse off than before, the economy is going to take a massive hit but it’s the best we can do. It’s daft and we should stay because whatever the disadvantages of the EU ( and there are many) they don’t come close to outweighing the advantages. You may not like that , you may not understand that but that’s the way it is ‘

Of course no one has the courage to say this and put their party in the Widerness for a generation, But if all three parties swallowed their pride and put the country first , and made a joint statement then it might just be ok in the end .

Tables of the recent polls are here:
whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-a-second-eu-referendum-were-held-today-how-would-you-vote/

Depending on the question asked of course, but this one, If there was another referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU, how would you vote?

YouGov (1660 respondents) Remain 46% Leave 37%
HOWEVER:
Deltapoll (2022 respondents) Remain 44% Leave 43%
Kantar (1178 respondents) Remain 36% Leave 33% (31% DK)
Opinium (2007 respondents) Remain 45% Leave 45%

Personally, I think that 'Leave' needs to be consistently above 50% (at present moment in time) to warrant the consideration of a second referendum.

I certainly don’t think brexiteers are poor. The ones on mn often tell us how comfortable they are and how little they care about the economy. The key predictors of voting leave were age and education not wealth.

I don’t think brexiteers are thick I just find it mystifying why they would repeatedly go on political discussion threads, talk about how excited they are about Brexit and then refuse to explain why - indeed seem bewildered that they have even been asked. This doesn’t seem a sign of great intellect to me but hey.

The key predictors of voting leave were age and education not wealth.

Indeed.

As for uneducated, you just need to read these threads and see comments about companies "using WTO" to know that nothing has changed in the last two years. People who were ignorant about trade, the EU, migration etc are still just as ignorant. They actively don't want to inform themselves.

Which companies "use " WTO? That's a nonsense solution for the UK economy.
Can't believe anyone still kids themselves with that drivel.

Personally, I think that 'Leave' needs to be consistently above 50% (at present moment in time) to warrant the consideration of a second referendum

Typo!!
REMAIN needs to be consistently above 50%

Many companies use WTO already.

The idea of a company "using" the World Trade Organisation is just nonsense.

It's possible to trade under WTO rules if two countries have no trade agreements at all, but in practice this is not how the vast majority of trade is done and no company would actively choose to trade on this basis if an alternative was available.

BlueJag your picture has nothing whatsoever to do with trading under WTO terms, much less "using WTO". It's propaganda disseminated by stupid-factory known as Leave.EU

Dyson has been working under WTO for years.

Anarchy will happen and you'll see bloodshed on our streets

sorry to keep carping on - but is this a personal promise that you personally will be out in the streets disobeying the rule of law and committing bloodshed ... or are you just talking out of your arse trying to frighten us?

Thats what we voted for - Brexit I mean.

But anyway, if OP as a Remainer wants to start (yet) another pointless argument - why not post on Brexit chat?

@Mistigri I get it you want to stay. Well that's not an option.

I’m a staunch remainer but I would be pretty pissed off if I’d voted leave and it didn’t happen. The very sort of pissed off that leads to a rise in far right support, not exactly something any of us want to see.

Is that the same Dyson that is moving his manufacturing to the Far East. Big success for British jobs, there.

Well that's not an option

Except it very clearly is an option.

Anarchy will happen and you'll see bloodshed on our streets

Every time i see this i think two things...

1. the rivers of blood speech

2. that i hav to stop the urge to yell 'it'll be anarchy' 😱

Riots or rioting is highly likely, either way, if we have a hot summer.

Global warming will increase the risks of the fiasco that is Brexit.

Sad but true.

I get it you want to stay. Well that's not an option.

Actually for me it is (as I have an EU family and job).

You're just deflecting though because you were called out for posting irrelevant nonsense from that well known authoritative source, Leave.EU, an organisation run by and for stupid people and racists.