that it has just hit me that this time next year I wont be an EU citizen

[garethsouthgatesmrs]

I know it's yet another brexit thread but it genuinely just hit me that it's actually happening THIS YEAR! I am truly gutted. Would love someone with political knowledge to come on and reassure me that it actually won't be that bad. I have 3 children who have to live with the repercussions.

buble is on jules holland-this has to be a good sign

I think because services make up such a large proportion of the UK economy (and people then forget that a large proportion of those services are consumed domestically, such as retail), the importance of manufacturing gets hugely overlooked.

Thanks - really interesting stuff!

@Angrybird345
That sounds alarming about the French pulling down EU flags, what’s that about?

The reason remainers are working themselves into a 'hysteria' as you call it is because it's like talking to a brick wall most of the time - real worrying possibilities are countered with 'project fear' or 'calm down' ....

@Togaandsandals
Those expats in Spain - I have the idea they won’t like too much when it costs them more to visit the UK and they have to queue for passport check etc 😬. Wonder why on earth they voted for brexit?

If you do not know what you want from Brexit how will you measure its success?

Perhaps some people don’t actually know. They can’t predict the future, after all. But some folks may remember life before the EU - may even have voted back in the 70’s, and not been happy with the direction the UK has taken. Therefore they’re willing to take a gamble, they’re willing to take the risk. They don’t know what’ll happen, they don’t think it will be easy, but they think the negatives have outweighed the positives.

I'm old enough to remember life before the EU. You don't get to chose that shit for me.

@Hawkinspace

I know plenty of British expats in Spain, and they’re not happy about it. Doesn’t matter how long you’ve lived there either, citizenship is off the table. You’ll always be a foreigner there.

@bellinisurge

What?

@WitchSharkadder
Good plan - always worth letting your MP know what you think, ask them to help. Remember the stats for leave/remain have shifted in the past two years. I understand almost all constituencies show an increase in support for remaining and only a small minority are pro no deal Brexit (the kamikaze option). The stats are from careful polling by reputable organisations like the ones that carried out the Best4Britain/People’s Vote poll.

@MrsAriadneOliver - you said "But some folks may remember life before the EU - may even have voted back in the 70’s, and not been happy with the direction the UK has taken. Therefore they’re willing to take a gamble, they’re willing to take the risk. "

And I said I'm old enough to remember that and you don't get to choose that shit for me.

you don't get to choose that shit for me.

I never said I did, did I?

But @MrsAriadneOliver - if you voted for life without the EU on a wild punt , on a distorted "memory " of the early 70s you are choosing that shit for me. I lived it first time around. No, thanks.

@SusanWalker
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you don't get to choose that shit for me

You thought those days were shit. Fair enough. You have reasons. Others don’t. They have reasons. They’re not harking back to a mythical past anyway - it’s over. They just don’t like the direction in which the EU has taken us.

@bellinisurge

I’m not talking about myself or my vote here.

@racingcardriver
You sound as though you have the heartlessness of the immature. Good for you having made some progress in life despite adversity. Please remember we aren’t all young, physically or mentally agile and energetic and relatively free of commitments. I hope you’ll find if you look more closely that there are a host of us out there who don’t fit your assumptions. Bless you asvyou find your way.

Who in their right mind would look back nostalgically to the early 70s?

Causal racism, sexism, industrial strife, Vesta curry, Jimmy Saville...

Causal racism, sexism, industrial strife, Vesta curry, Jimmy Saville...

Yep, it was just like that. Nothing positive about those times at all. All bad. It’s a wonder we lived through them.

As a child of the 70s growing up feral - as did most children. I wonder how we survived as well.

Perhaps some people don’t actually know. They can’t predict the future, after all. But some folks may remember life before the EU - may even have voted back in the 70’s, and not been happy with the direction the UK has taken. Therefore they’re willing to take a gamble, they’re willing to take the risk. They don’t know what’ll happen, they don’t think it will be easy, but they think the negatives have outweighed the positives.
God, I hope no one's reason for voting was actually that stupid.

Newsflash: Jimmy Saville is dead. Unless leaving the EU means he will suddenly be dug up again [again] although earlier, some Remainer on another one of these threads was talking about digging up dead people from their graves for some bizarre reason.

Marital rape was legal then. It was only when we were in the EU that it got outlawed. No wonder some of the skeevy men we see in politics want us out

Apologies if it's been mentioned before but I believe there's a massive driving force behind the ultra-rich of the UK (including JRM, BJ, Mr TM and the owners of the Times, Express, Mail and Telegraph) - namely the EU Anti Tax Avoidance Directive, which comes into force on the 28th January.

ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/company-tax/anti-tax-avoidance-package/anti-tax-avoidance-directive_en

Follow the money.....

God, I hope no one's reason for voting was actually that stupid.

Can you explain why it’s stupid?

Marital rape was legal then

Some things were undoubtedly worse, but you can’t judge the past solely by its negatives!