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to think piercing of childrens ears should be banned

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lucyellensmum · 26/06/2007 18:57

why why why would anyone want to do this to a three year old????? I went to a childrens party at the weekend, there was a lovely little girl there with the most awful blingy "diamond" earings pulling her ears down - ear piercing hurts, it is tantamount to child abuse IMO.

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lucyellensmum · 28/06/2007 15:33

blimey manic, i never thought of the whole MRSA thing, surely that isnt a problem with ear peircing? is it? (horrified emoticon)

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skay · 28/06/2007 15:43

Having read all the posts related to ear piercing I have come to a conclusion.....

Most of the posters here have not had ear piercings at all or have had them done after the age of 5 (give or take a few who have had them done before that)

My theory is besides culture the older you have ears pierced, the more it will hurt, the older you are, there is more of a chance you will remember it for the rest of your life. Also this has a knock on affect of not getting their own DD's ears peirced until they can make their own decision.

As I have said before I had mine done at a very young age (probably before my first birthday) I certainly can't remember the pain. I can't even remember ever playing with my earrings, wasn't even aware of them until I started to go to school. Hence I never had any ear infections until I got a lot older and started to change my own earrings. (At one point I would change my earrings everyday!)

skay · 28/06/2007 15:52

Manic - So long as the ear piercings are kept clean there shouldn't be a problem.

Besides innoculations are just as bad if not worse.

Innoculations are not just a needle "Piercing" the skin they are actually injecting your child with a virus.
I your child has a reaction to this virus, it can possibly lead to much worse than a child who is ill for a few days!

On thing I DO object against is innoculations being done at 2Months old.
I realise that are done for a very good reason, but at 2mths!!!

lucyellensmum · 28/06/2007 15:52

skay,with the greatest of respect, your pain argument is codswallop - just because your LO can't tell you how much it hurts doesn't mean to say it doesnt, it is likely to be even more traumatic as the poor mite wont know why.

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Manictigger · 28/06/2007 15:53

I have no idea whether it is a particular problem with pierced ears I just know that it enters a body through open wounds and that people with compromised immune systems are more susceptible. MRSA is also rife in the population.

I just think it's crazy to deliberately create an open wound when there's absolutely no need and sorry Skay, but I think cultural/ancestral reasons are no excuse, why would you put your baby's health at risk?

Having said all that, I don't really care what other people do. If you want to take the risk, go ahead, it is you who would have to live with the 'if onlys' if something did happen. I prefer a simple life with as little guilt as possible.

skay · 28/06/2007 15:56

She will SCREEEEAAAAM!!!

To tell me she is in pain. But after a few cuddles and a couple of hours, she will not know.

lucyellensmum · 28/06/2007 16:01

oh bless, i know that i am in tears after every vaccination, at least it is for her own good. As i say, for cultural reasons i have to respect that but for fashion, am i the only one who gets it!!!

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theUrbanDryad · 28/06/2007 16:11

Skay - i've got 6 piercings in my left ear and 6 in my right, as well as my nose done, as well as 3 tattoos.

admittedly, my first piercing was done when i was 15, because my mum wouldn't let me have it done before then, but hey...

why would you want your child to be in pain? i genuinely don't get it...

3andnomore - your German is probably a lot better than my GCSE standard, but i was quoting Karl Marx!

lucyellensmum · 28/06/2007 16:16

UD it must be a nightmare going through security at airports

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theUrbanDryad · 28/06/2007 16:18

yep - meant i got frisked very personally at Schipol airport a few years ago. by a butch lady with a machine gun.

Manictigger · 28/06/2007 16:20

Yes LEM, I've sometimes wondered what people with intimate piercings do at airports. Are they expected to strip off and remove them in front of everyone or what?

harleyd · 28/06/2007 16:20

lol theurbandryad i have the same problem!

lucyellensmum · 28/06/2007 16:22

can you imagine a peircing "down there" oh my god!!!!

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harleyd · 28/06/2007 16:25

why

3andnomore · 28/06/2007 16:30

lol Urban , well, gramamtically it should definitely be "Der Untermensch" as it is also "der Mensch"...however, who am I to argue with Karl Marx, lol....maybe he didn't want to be discriminating...i.e. der ist male and die is female and das is an it/thing , iykwim!

Skay, I have several ear[iercings, but now don't wear earings or studs very often (one of my studs came loose at one point and I found the screw in my Newborns clothing...he could have easily choked on it if it had fallen any differently, I suppose....)....had my first piercing done when I was about 10, mihgt have been a little younger!
Must admit, I find it difficult to compare the pain of vaxxiinations with that of ear piercing, teh pain may possibly be worse at immunisation , however, Immunisations are done to save the childs life whereas earpiercing in general are done as a "visual enhancement" and tbh, little children are so beautyful anyway, why not jsut put them into a pretty dress.
Now, I know for you it seems to be a cultural thing, but to me, personally, that isn't an excuse....but that is just my personal opinion, however, I suppose with ear piercing and the cultural thing, I suppose I would find it easier to understand, iykwim.

divastrop · 28/06/2007 16:34

skay-just because a child doesnt remember something it doesnt mean it doesnt affect them.i honestly dont know how you can do that to your baby,and you dont even seem to know why you are doing it,just 'cultural reasons'

vaccinations are given to prevent life-threatening illnesses.there is a reason for them being given.yes,some children have reactions but as parents we have to take many measured risks and make informed choices.

vaccinations and ear piercing are not comparable IMO.

laneydaye · 28/06/2007 16:40

Well like i said before is it not child abuse to do it when someone cant say whether they want it doing or not....? imho it is!!

mumto3girls · 28/06/2007 20:00

So should I pierce my baby's ears?
Ultimately the decision is yours but it's worth knowing the arguments for and against, other than the issue of pain.

Infection. There is always the risk of infection following a piercing, especially if the needle is not perfectly sterile. In babies under six months of age, an infection from an ear piercing could lead to hospitalisation. However, if the piercing is done by a reputable outlet, and the area is kept clean for the first six weeks the risk of infection is greatly reduced.

Keloid scars. These are unsightly lumps of scar tissue that grow around a wound. Some people are prone to the development of keloids, which tend to occur in families, and should avoid having their ears pierced at a young age. However, a recent American study found that people who had their ears pierced after puberty were four times more likely to develop keloids than those who had it done at an earlier age.

Injury. It is not unknown for children to have their earlobes ripped after a boisterous sibling or playmate has caught hold of the earring, or it has got caught in normal day to day play. It is for this reason that many primary schools forbid the wearing of earrings, or insist on plasters over the lobes if the piercing is fairly new. However, the risk of earlobe damage can be reduced if flat studs are worn.

Uneven placing. Even the best behaved children can fidget, usually totally unpredictably. A sudden movement as the ear is pierced could result in badly positioned earrings which could cause embarrassment later in life. However, a skilled technician, preferably one who specialises in paediatric piercings, would be aware of and allow for such an occurrence.

Choking. By far the most serious risk is that of choking. As a parent you will know that a lot of toys are not suitable for babies and toddlers because at this age anything small enough to fit in their mouths will go in their mouths. A stray earring that has fallen out holds a serious risk of choking for a young, child as it is small enough to be accidentally inhaled if put in the mouth.

Paediatrician, Dr Robert Steele, recommends waiting a while before piercing your baby's ears. "As a paediatrician, I tend to err on the side of safety," he says. "My personal preference would be to delay piercing your child's ears until she is at least four. Even then, it may be preferable for you to hold off until she is at an age at which she can decide for herself whether she wants to have them pierced."

Taken from Babyworld pages.

Nightynight · 28/06/2007 20:11

I was actually going to start a thread asking what age people got their dds ears pierced. Think I have reconsidered now though!

dd1 is 10, she is the only girl in her class in school (germany) who doesnt have pierced ears. I insist on sticking to english culture, and wont let her have them done.

So according to some of you, I should be on the next plane home! Seriously, my reason is that although we are in germany, she will be judged, not as a german, but as an english child. And in other places, she will be judged as being from ex's country.

I have said she can have them done when she is 15 - does anyone stick to this age any more?

whomovedmychocolate · 28/06/2007 20:21

I have a question: how come a kid can't wear a chastity ring for school but can wear a chavtastic rings in her ears?

LaBoheme · 28/06/2007 20:59

I personally don't think that "cultural" reasons for piercing should take precedence over a babys pain. I'm sorry, but male and female circumsision is a cultural tradition for some, that dosen't make me respect it or make it right. I am not suggesting the two are on exactly the same level, but I do think justice is overlooked in the name of religion, tradition and culture.

3andnomore · 29/06/2007 12:17

Nightynight, it really surprises me that your dd is the only one without earrings in Germany....I am german, and I am sure that I am not the only German that fels ear piercing is wrong, etc...

Nightynight · 29/06/2007 18:05

hmm - perhaps dd is lying then

montmerency · 29/06/2007 18:16

I think ears should be pierced when children are old enough to want them (e.g. as teens) - I really don't like seeing babies with pierced ears - it seems unnecessary and they are beautiful enough without bling!

3andnomore · 29/06/2007 19:57

lol NIghty...I suppose it might depend on teh area you live in, etc...don't know....but from the german forums I am on, I tend to find that the people there are pretty much on my level in those sort of things...but then, I suppose a lot of them lean towards the lentil weaving , that might impact that one, lol.....but then, there are an awful lot of lentil weavers in germany, I am sure there are more then over here, lol!

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