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DH is abusive

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brusselsproutfan · 23/12/2018 11:58

Last night me DH and 2 DC went to see the Panto. It's expensive so a nice night out.
Had small dinner before we went and picked up some chips to eat on way back to eat at home.
Had a brilliant time up until that point.
I drove with oldest DD in front of car and DH and youngest DD sat in the back. Youngest DD fell asleep and normally I pull up on the drive, unlock front door, go in and say hello to the dog as he goes crazy then come back out and get DD out of car.
My DH started beeping the car horn as I didn't come out quick enough as the car has child locks on the doors so he needed to be let out. I was coming out anyway to lift youngest DD out of car as she was asleep. He was so angry and came in and started shouting at my oldest DD saying she was selfish for not letting him out the car and was really shouting at her. DD started crying so I gave her a hug and DH got even angrier.
He went into kitchen and went to fill up the kettle and banged the lid down on the kettle several times so it's now buckled and doesn't fit on the kettle properly.
He got the chips that were still wrapped in the paper and thrust them really hard into DDs hands and said "go on eat them" he did it with force so he hurt her.
I was very upset by this and told him he's abusive and he went into the garden and started shouting at the top of his voice and we could hear loads of noises where he was throwing stuff about out there.
We were scared and contemplated calling the police as I don't think it's right to be scared in your own home. AIBU to do this?
All over not letting him out the car quick enough.

OP posts:
TenForward82 · 23/12/2018 13:06

What @whisky said.

negomi90 · 23/12/2018 13:06

For all those blaming the OP or her DD for leaving him in the car for 5 mins.
It is perfectly reasonable and normal for one parent to wait in the car with a sleeping child while the other goes in the house and opens the doors and calms the dog down, before coming back to bring things in and help with the child.
Its also perfectly reasonable for a teenager to dart in the house and do her own thing after a night out with the family, especially when their are two parents around to look after one young child between them.
Neither you or your DDs did anything at all wrong.
Even if you had locked him in the car for an hour it doesn't justify screaming, yelling, abuse or force.
Op I'm sorry that your DH is scary and abusive. You need to act to protect your self and your daughters.

beepbeeprichie · 23/12/2018 13:07

With regard to you being too embarrassed to pop into your neighbour’s house with the biscuits- absolutely not. You’ve got NOTHING to be embarrassed about. Your husband is not a good man. You and your children deserve much, much better. It’s easy for strangers to tell you here, when we don’t have the logistics, emotional pull or financial details to work through but seriously. LTB. You cannot bring children up in that environment.

Ourmaud · 23/12/2018 13:10

Pack his stuff up for him and change the locks. There is nothing worth risking your kids safety for. I hope you have rl help op

CaptainsYuleLog · 23/12/2018 13:11

You have to protect yourself and your children. Get him out.

TynSoldier · 23/12/2018 13:13

I know you have recognised that your husband is abusive, but this is a warning story for thinking that non-violence means a man's not dangerous. I'd get out of your relationship, OP.

"Lance was not physically abusive – largely, the brothers believe, because they all worked hard to orchestrate a calm atmosphere at home, and because they gave in to his emotional demands. They didn’t think of his behaviour as domestic violence, because they had only ever considered domestic violence to be a man hitting a woman. Lance didn’t consider his actions to be abusive, either. “Yes, we bickered, but it wasn’t serious,” he wrote in his suicide note. “It was normal marriage stuff. No violence.” For some months, Claire had been keeping a diary of everything Lance said and did, but didn’t feel she could take it to the police because there had been no physical harm.

“We thought, ‘Well, he’s not drunk and beating us every weekend, we’re not failing at school, we don’t have behavioural problems.’ Those were the signs I was looking for,” Luke says. “And because it hadn’t happened, we didn’t recognise our suffering, or that he was dangerous. From the outside, we were three healthy, intelligent children. No one seemed concerned that much was wrong, because we were doing so well.”

Lance murdered his wife and daughter.

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jun/17/we-didnt-recognise-that-he-was-dangerous-our-father-killed-our-mother-and-sister

brusselsproutfan · 23/12/2018 13:15

He has come back now and still angry. His eyes are angry. He's still saying it's our fault and he was looking forward to the chips but my DD is selfish and she picks airs about other people but doesn't accept when shes wrong.

OP posts:
FFSFFSFFS · 23/12/2018 13:17

Here is your daughters' current perspectives:

My father is violent and abusive and my mother doesn't stop him abusing us. We don't have anyone keeping us safe.

Have a backbone and protect your daughters. If you don't your just as bad as him.

TynSoldier · 23/12/2018 13:18

What do you want to do, brussel? Flowers

Afonavon · 23/12/2018 13:19

Thin end of the wedge! You need to find a way to no longer expose yourself and your children to this arsehole.

Sarahjconnor · 23/12/2018 13:22

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RyderWhiteSwan · 23/12/2018 13:24

but doesn't accept when shes wrong

And her father does? He accepts his wrongdoing does he? Hmm

The remaining anger and 'angry eyes' now he's come back tells me again he needs professional help. Something very wrong here.

CatnissEverdene · 23/12/2018 13:25

He sounds like he's got very serious anger issues. It sounds horrid for you and your DC, and a lovely evening was completely wrecked by his inability to control his temper.

That's no way to live Flowers

HJWT · 23/12/2018 13:25

Why haven't you packed his bags? Seriously? If my DH EVER made my child cry without her being SERIOUSLY in the wrong and I mean harming another person I'd kick him out straight away without contact.... you let him stay and your girls will grow up to think it's acceptable to let a man abuse you.

brusselsproutfan · 23/12/2018 13:28

Catniss

I know and I'm so upset. It seems so trivial to others but he totally ruined the night and people are saying i should have let him out the car quicker.
I hate him so much, I hate the man he is.
We are all siting in my bedroom listening to music but are off out in 30 mins.

OP posts:
RhiWrites · 23/12/2018 13:29

He has anger management problems and yes, is abusive. Would he go to counselling to help him with his anger? Not family or couples counselling, individual counselling for him.

Chloe84 · 23/12/2018 13:32

Your DD will be terrified and anxious about living in the house with him.

Have you told him to leave?

CrookedMe · 23/12/2018 13:32

Seriously, you cannot live with a man who stays angry about fucking chips from one day to the next. Confused

FFSFFSFFS · 23/12/2018 13:34

Are you more concerned about him ruining the night and what other people think of you or how your daughter is feeling after being verbally and physically abused by her father and her mother not protecting her??

It really doesn't sound like your going to protect your daughters.

If my partner did that to my child they would be out the door before the chips were cold.

I would not be on mumsnet.

BlackCatSleeping · 23/12/2018 13:35

It sounds like you are scared in your own home Sad

DeaflySilence · 23/12/2018 13:36

Are both your children his? How is he with the 3 year old?

Italiangreyhound · 23/12/2018 13:37

brusselsproutfan I am so sorry this sounds terrible.

Is he the father of your younger dd or both the girls?

"I said to him I'm calling the police as I have called the police on him before and he said "you do that, you'll never see me again"

He is over the top and over reacts."

So there is past conflict and this latest episode is part of that. He is angry with 'you' or 'your dd' still over an incident in which you nearly called the police on him?

Postino · 23/12/2018 13:38

Please protect your children OP, don't be like my Mum Sad

AcrossthePond55 · 23/12/2018 13:39

It seems so trivial to others......

I don't think it seems trivial to anyone. Yes, some people have made stupid suggestions about tippy-toeing round to avoid angering him, but even those people think this is serious.

What do you want to come out of this? Return to the same old/same old or do you want to use this as a jumping off point to a new life?

See a solicitor about your financial situation. If he isn't working there will be no child maintenance, but it will be cheaper living without him since he's not contributing anything financially anyway.

I don't know jack about UK social housing as I'm in the US, but find out about that, too. But I will say that it's never worth living in hell just because hell is affordable. If you can't get him out, leave if you can't keep the house.

Italiangreyhound · 23/12/2018 13:39

He needs help. Being unemployed is hard. BUT you need safety. You must be safe from him. He has said "you do that, you'll never see me again". I think you need to tell him to leave, stay with friends during Christmas and you separate from him until he is no longer a threat to you and the kids, which may mean he is never able to live with you again. Headbutting something to give himself a black eye! Dreadful.

beepbeeprichie "With regard to you being too embarrassed to pop into your neighbour’s house with the biscuits- absolutely not. You’ve got NOTHING to be embarrassed about."

Totally agree. It might be helpful to explain to your neighbours that your husband had been aggressive because one day it might be your neighbour calling the police and saving your life if he continues to live with you.

You know you need a zero tolerance for this behavior. It's not OK.

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