To ask what we have to look forward to after March 29th 2019

[Bearbehind]

It turns out Theresa May’s definition of ‘soverignity and democracy’ is to postpone a democratic vote, not allow anyone except her to change their mind and generally run to clock down until her deal is the only option.

So what do people think about that?

What are the benefits we have to look forward to when we leave the EU given it turns out ‘they don’t actually need is more than we need them’ after all?

What are we doing this for?

(And for those who want to ignore Brexit, don’t read this thread. Equally, this is the biggest thing this country has ever faced in most of our generation so please don’t banish this to the Brexit section)

russia if you think I’m sock puppet it, report me.

You might want to look at the times of mine and recently posts before you do though - it would be pretty impressive if I could type, name change and respond in less than a minute.

Pmsl, recently, we did another quick change there again!

Now thats image im going to have a heard time forgetting

Even worse if we had avatars on here! 😂

Exactly - there’s still no benefits to speak of, just a load of very tired sound bites and ‘feelings’

Yeah thats what exactly has been happening.

leftfootforward.org/2018/12/peoples-vote-campaigners-have-failed-to-listen-to-leavers-they-may-find-a-compromise-is-better-than-a-nightmare/

No it's just very rare for two people to have the same sentencing structure and written style.

In fact I'd say less than 1% but it's possible I guess

controlled immigration
The realities of business mean numbers will remain steady. If there are FTAs with countries like India, relaxed visa rules will of course be part of the deal. We're just swapping one set of migrants for another. Nothing against Indians or anyone else, but honestly if it's numbers you're worried about I can't see the point.

Of course it’s not rare russia, stop talking such crap.

There are less sentence and structure styles than the are people so of course multiple people will have the same style.

No that's not true. Predominantly every person has a unique form of phrasing.
Similar to handwriting.

This is really annoying now - report us both if you want - but you’ll look a bit of a twat when you are proved completely wrong.

No interest in reporting you. I simply asked a question.

You both are also very angry and aggresive.

Can I just ask what you think I’d gain from saying the same thing under multiple user names at exactly the same times anyway?

You didn’t ‘simply ask a question’ you accused me of sock puppetry.

Justanotherlurker Wed 19-Dec-18 10:20:54

I wrote:-

Well OP, if we leave with no deal/no CU/SM a lot of hard working families will have a lot more time to be together due to their JIT manufacturing jobs being relocated to either Mainland Europe or the Far East. So that's something

You replied:-

See, this somes it up, there is a nobel prize winning economist explaining you that some are being hysterical and hyperobolic, but they refuse to accept this "expert".

I'm just another uneducated person, but I pay attention. BMW, Honda, Toyota and Vauxhall will all shift production in the event of the loss of the single market. BMW, Toyota and Honda have all brought forward their usual summer shutdowns to coincide with Brexit because it will be cheaper to pay their workers to sit at home than have trucks sitting in ports all over Europe while workers litter factories doing nothing.

Also, it'll cost them less in the long run in the event of no SM to shut down and relocate overseas. If you refuse to see that it's not my fault.

surferjet
It seems today's world basically sucks in your eyes. In some ways it truly does (though I may have different reasons to think that) but brexit will solve precisely nothing. If it works, best case scenario, it will bring about globalisation on steroids. Your precious sovereignty will be even more in the hands of multinational corporations with even less recourse for anyone, including the UK government, to control anything. Democracy will just consist of token rituals to appease the masses. Or you can hope to retain some clout as part of the biggest trade bloc in the world. Sure, only as 1 of 27 but it offers huge leverage over China the US and India. Can't you see it's the only way to spare your grand kids a future as little more than indentured serfs?

Controlled immigration so my children & grandchildren grow up without feeling like outsiders in their own country.

It's not "their own country", and if immigration makes them feel like outsiders in the country of their birth their sense of identity must be very weak.

Less pressure on our services
Yes, when the people who provide services leave, or no longer come her to provide them, I'm sure everything will be much better. As the economy worsens and there is less funding for services, that will also relieve pressure.

A feeling of freedom.
You want us to go through all this so you can have a feeling of freedom? Are you actually real? That's the most pathetic reason for this absolute mess that I have heard- never mind everyone, the government are issuing emergency advice and putting the army on standby, the future is very bleak indeed, we cannot guarantee sufficient food or medicine, businesses are warning us of absolute disaster, services have been told to expect a rise in suicides, a sharp recession is a likely outcome of No Deal Brexit... but it's all worth it so one selfish woman can have a feeling of freedom.

Possible drop in house prices so my children can actually afford a home.
If house prices drop, the situation will be such that lenders require much bigger deposits and charge much higher interest rates, so your children are unlikely to be any better off.

Russia - I didn't realise you were a forensic linguist- we are practically colleagues! And unless you have analysed a much larger sample of data than the posts on this thread, your conclusions would be deemed invalid so give it a rest.

And if we're talking conspiracy...Surely someone who posts under the name Bearbehind is actually trying to signal that behind their online presence hides a bear - symbol of Russian power, where they come from with love. Only joking bear!

Bearbehind, if you think an EU army doesn't exist then you haven't really been following the news recently. Did you not see the coverage of the Paris riots? The tanks with the EU symbol on the side...?

Controlled immigration so my children & grandchildren grow up without feeling like outsiders in their own country

Well, that's nice for your white home bred DC, surferjet, but my mixed race DD might have a less easy ride in her own country of England. Post-ref she's had a few people tell her to "fuck off home". Maybe she and others like her could wear a symbol to indicate that this is there home. What about a nice yellow star?

Peugeot will use any excuse to shut Vauxhall down as they are over producing vans and it's easier to shut plants in the UK than in France, thanks to the Tories in the 1980s.

if you think an EU army doesn't exist then you haven't really been following the news recently. Did you not see the coverage of the Paris riots? The tanks with the EU symbol on the side...?

OMFG - are you actually serious?

Do you honestly think that was some EU army that’s been secretly banded together?

I am assuming there will be quite a bit of work for lawyers. Every cloud has a silver lining I suppose. Best to look on the bright side.

The country is split in two over Brexit. Even we remainers are split - I support proceeding to Brexit as we remainers lost the referendum as does my Tory MP, Mrs May and I think Corbyn so we just have to get on with it.

Anyway, since some of us are so keen to turn the clock back to when England was still England, can we travel back to the 18th century and convince the Brits and the French that colonisation is a REALLY disastrous idea? After all, there was the real start of globalisation. Maybe we shouldn't have plundered to build empires off the back of indigenous populations to start with.

The op asked what people are looking forward to after brexit.
I answered.
You don’t agree ( surprise surprise )
but my days of spending hours upon hours arguing with remainers are long gone.
It’s quicker, & less painful, to bang my head against a brick wall.

Have a nice day.

Scotland will be one step closer to independence. A bold, inclusive and outward looking country, sharing an independent border with an intolerant nation, obsessed with itself and only looking inwards.

England's best days are long behind it (and it was completely self-inflicted). The only good thing about Brexit could be Scottish independence - for Scotland has its best days ahead.

With Brexit, the UK will slowly disintegrate.