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Mil - Is this normal behaviour or interfering/controlling?

115 replies

NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 18/12/2018 09:33

For every birthday she texts or rings DH to make sure he sends a card and present, then rings him later to make sure he has done it. Sometimes she even tries to pick the present he should get or tell him how much he should spend (like trying to get DH to get a 50 pound birthday present for his aunt when she gets him nothing, sometimes not even a card). She even does this for thank you cards as well, telling us when we must send them. We didn't send thank you cards for the gifts we received for our son soon after having him so she send us a pack of thank you cards in the post to send people (we were busy and would have got round to it later). She even told DH who to send our baby scan pictures to, and that we must announce the birth on facebook. Just lots of make sure you do this then calls later to make sure he does it.

She didn’t want us to have a baby telling my DH "I hope your not trying for a baby". When we were were moving in together and DH was buying a house step FIL sent an email to both of us insinuating I might be a gold digger so be careful, and make sure we both do what is right etc (worded in the nicest possible way and I’m sure it was MIL’s idea). She told my DH the maximum amount he should spend on an engagement ring. At my sons christening we were trying to take pictures and she was in my DH's face saying we need to donate (we were going to after taking some photos) and she was demanding to know how much. His brother once went on a blind date with a women 5 years older than him and she was shouting and shouting about the age difference (I was staying at her house and could hear the yelling through the walls). She once thought I said I was a couple of years older than I am and the look on her face. When we first started dating she said I should really make an effort and wear makeup. If he puts on a little weight, she tells him he needs to walk to work (5 miles away), only have 1 meal a day, asks if he is eating to much junk food, and when she visits touches his belly and makes comments like "ow dear". We have decided I will be a sahm because with the cost of travel and childcare I would be just about breaking even or paying to work depending on how many days I can work from home. MIL is not happy with this telling my DH I should just work because I need a job and even tried to bribe him by saying she will pay for part of nursery (not an option because she would hold this over our head).

She constantly talks to me and DH as if we are children. When DH told her I was pregnant she was almost in tears on the phone asking how will we cope. For the first month after giving birth she would ring every day, giving unsolicited advice and pointing out the obvious. I really have to grit my teeth when talking to her because she constantly talks to me like a child.

She uses emotional blackmail to try and get what she wants. Like after always spending Christmas at her house, the first time we were going to spend it with my parents her reply was "but it could be your grandmothers last Christmas". One weekend we said she couldn't visit because I had a bad mastitis infection and I was devastated we had to top up with formula because our baby was losing weight. I especially didn't want to see her because she has been against breastfeeding since I have got pregnant making negative comments. She was constantly telling my husband "my friend started formula feeding and they and baby were much happier, and they got a prep machine and it was so much easier, ill get you one and you can formula feed". She also came into my bedroom when I was trying to breastfeed and she told me “its just so difficult, there is really no shame in giving up”. Because she couldn't visit that weekend she was shouting at DH over the phone saying "I'm just trying to help", and then she didn't visit for months and just sent texts implying we were stopping her from visiting and when will I be able to see my grandchild (we were just stopping her that one weekend). She also looked for any minor excuse to try to blame him or scold him for something.

She will lie and deny a lot of the things I'm saying here or say “I’m just trying to help”. She will deny things when its really obvious she is lying. She once made my DH buy a dress for me and his sister when they were in a store together. Mine mysteriously disappeared and his sister got it as a gift from MIL and when my DH asked where the dress was she denied all knowledge of its existence.

AIBU to be annoyed by this? Is this normal standard parent/ Mil behaviour?

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Suziepoozie · 18/12/2018 09:37

She sounds batshit. You sound very patient. Smile and nod and quietly repeat fuck off fuck off under your breath when she turns around

BarbedBloom · 18/12/2018 09:37

This is not normal and I would have lost it ages ago. What is your DH’s opinion on all of this?

7yo7yo · 18/12/2018 09:40

Wtaf
Distance yourself.
Why are you answering and pandering to her?

Chamomileteaplease · 18/12/2018 09:40

She sounds utterly utterly awful. Completely the opposite of normal.

I am surprised you or your dh have anything to do with her. Ever.

How far away do you live from her? Because I suggest you make it several hundred miles.

Canibuildasnowman · 18/12/2018 09:41

sounds crazed, quietly out as much distance between her and your family as you can. Let your DH deal with her. presumably he knows she's crackers but she is still he mother.

civicxx · 18/12/2018 09:41

Tell her too fuck off she's a lunatic

Pachyderm1 · 18/12/2018 09:42

Not normal at all, she sounds like a nightmare!

LimitIsUp · 18/12/2018 09:43

You have to ask? No, its not remotely normal or acceptable.

LilMy33 · 18/12/2018 09:47

YANBU to be annoyed but I don’t think it’s standard behaviour from anyone. That said my ex in-laws are like this and I’m glad to be rid of them now, as is my mother and I limit contact with her just to stay sane. I’ve told my DP if I ever start micromanaging my own children’s lives when they’re adults to give me a good shake!

Ohyesiam · 18/12/2018 09:47

Phenomenally self centred woman.
You need Uber boundaries, lots of distance. Expect tantrums and histrionics, don’t give in.

madeyemoodysmum · 18/12/2018 09:47

Complete control freak. I’d distance the time you spend with her. She will scream and shout but stand firm.

LilMy33 · 18/12/2018 09:48

And yes I meant to say what others have said, tell her to back off. And your husband needs to as well. What’s she going to do about it? Ground you both? Stop your pocket money?

Rainbunny · 18/12/2018 09:49

She sounds terrible! It's hard not to react to people who behave this way but if you can psych yourself up ahead of time when you know you'll be seeing her, try maintaining a pleasant but smugly patronising demeanor towards her and introduce a small smile and slight eyebrow lift everytime she says/does something insulting.

There's nothing more infuriating to people like her, who judge others constantly to realise that she herself is being judged... I have a similar relative and this approach is immensely satisfying and I truly do feel so much less irritated by this person, knowing that I am getting under their skin Grin

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 18/12/2018 09:50

Op..there are two ways you can deal with this ..either ignore and grit teeth forever more or tell her to shut up.She hasnt yet cottoned on to the fact you are grown ups with your own family and do not need her"advice" or interference.I would suggest in the first instance you sit down and explain to your partner how much she is affecting you.You need him on side really and tell him if he doesnt sort her out you will..and mean it.Tell her nothing either,,I mean tell her hat she needs to know and what you want her to kno and nothing else.This is hard but worth it to regain some control as what she doesnt know she cant comment on,You as parents are in charge here not her,As for presents etc tell her its in hand.nothing more its all in hand then do as you bloody well like! Also for her only trying to help a simple thanks MIL I have got this covered when I need you for anything i will ask...no more no less cut her off at the start of her rant.You must try to do this or she will be on your back forever...Take less phone calls ...let it go to answer machine and leave it ..ring hen you can be arsed to deal with her ,,you a have a life and you are busy she does not get to queue jump in order of your priorities.You married her son not her if you get my drift ,,,,she is nothing to you so dont let her stress YOU out let son deal with her ..if you feel like a chat then do so if you dont then thats fine too...You can do this!!!!

ElspethFlashman · 18/12/2018 09:50

Not normal AT ALL. She sounds unhinged.

NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 18/12/2018 09:52

BarbedBloom
7yo7yo
He thinks that's just the way she is and he is fine with telling her most details of our life when she asks, he thankfully doesn't listen to all her advice tho. She would ask if I am still breastfeeding every time she rang my husband for the first month after having the baby, he did eventually stop telling her tho

Chamomileteaplease
She is about 60 miles away, but she is retiring soon so I'm getting worried because she will have even more time on her hands

Do I need to worry about her trying this crap with my son when he is older?

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Franullalitta · 18/12/2018 09:55

She sounds like my mil. Batshit. Go no or low contact. That's what I have done.

formerbabe · 18/12/2018 10:04

Sounds hellish...poor you.

Chamomileteaplease · 18/12/2018 10:05

60 miles? So most of this contact is telephone, text and email?

How often does she contact your dh? And is he ok with this level of intrusion?

Surely you must argue with him about it? It sounds intolerable.

Mumtoboy123 · 18/12/2018 10:07

Bloody hell!!! That sounds awful and a lot like my mum. Youre going to have to distance yourselves i think. Good luck with it (if you do start ff take her up on the prep before you cut her a bit... theyre so handy but so expensive!)

Thisnamechanger · 18/12/2018 10:10

Christ alive! Run OP!

AnnaMagnani · 18/12/2018 10:16

Not normal. She's failed to realise her children are now adults and to have an adult to adult relationship with them.

Your DH telling her every detail of his life isn't helping her - he still behaves around her a bit like a teenager i.e. tells her everything and then ignores her advice.

Stopping telling her so much - you all behaving like adults - and possibly having some blowups would actually help her see the relationship has moved on.

LakieLady · 18/12/2018 10:25

Deffo reduce contact, and you need to make sure your DH knows this is not normal (although it may be in some cultures, possibly).

He needs to stop over-sharing and understand that you have your own family now and she needs to butt out. And I'd be giving her the grey rock treatment.

Of course, I wouldn't be able to follow my own advice. I'd have blown my stack, told her to fuck off and stop the fucking control-freakery!

SlowDown76mph · 18/12/2018 10:26

Your DH is the primary problem here. He should have your back, be making parenting decisions with you, and become a Dad. At the moment he is still behaving like a boy in the way he interacts with his mother.

NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 18/12/2018 10:31

Franullalitta
My DH would never agree to go low or no contact. Think he just puts up with it because he is used it growing up with her? She once didn't speak to him for 2 weeks because he wouldn't get a part time job she wanted him to get as a young teenager.
When he was at university she sent his house mate a birthday card and put ps make sure he is eating properly please on it. I don't think he called her up on it because that to me is very embarrassing.
This is so outing, and worried Mil will find this and take the huff with my DH over it.

Chamomileteaplease
Most of the contact is her phoning and texting my DH. She visits once a month now (few months after the fallout because we wouldn't let her visit that one weekend and she didn't visit for months). I have to grit my teeth the whole time because im sick of being talked to like I am 4 years old. We are going to stay are her house for a few days at Christmas which I am dreading (she is even worse on her own turf) and she has booked a cottage for her birthday in a few months time,
which she started a few months ago reminding my DH about every time she calls him. With her retiring in a few months I am worried she will contact us/ DH alot more and she will suggest staying at our house lots and my DH will agree to it. Luckily at the moment her job takes up most of her time

Yeah we argue about her, put he just accepts her behaviour and tells her most of the details about our life she wants to know.
She is the main source of tension in our marriage, probably 90% of the arguments. I don't know what to do because I think I am
at the end of my tether with and its just going to get worse when she retires. I was beginning to think AIBU because he just accepts the way she is.

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