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Mil - Is this normal behaviour or interfering/controlling?

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NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 18/12/2018 09:33

For every birthday she texts or rings DH to make sure he sends a card and present, then rings him later to make sure he has done it. Sometimes she even tries to pick the present he should get or tell him how much he should spend (like trying to get DH to get a 50 pound birthday present for his aunt when she gets him nothing, sometimes not even a card). She even does this for thank you cards as well, telling us when we must send them. We didn't send thank you cards for the gifts we received for our son soon after having him so she send us a pack of thank you cards in the post to send people (we were busy and would have got round to it later). She even told DH who to send our baby scan pictures to, and that we must announce the birth on facebook. Just lots of make sure you do this then calls later to make sure he does it.

She didn’t want us to have a baby telling my DH "I hope your not trying for a baby". When we were were moving in together and DH was buying a house step FIL sent an email to both of us insinuating I might be a gold digger so be careful, and make sure we both do what is right etc (worded in the nicest possible way and I’m sure it was MIL’s idea). She told my DH the maximum amount he should spend on an engagement ring. At my sons christening we were trying to take pictures and she was in my DH's face saying we need to donate (we were going to after taking some photos) and she was demanding to know how much. His brother once went on a blind date with a women 5 years older than him and she was shouting and shouting about the age difference (I was staying at her house and could hear the yelling through the walls). She once thought I said I was a couple of years older than I am and the look on her face. When we first started dating she said I should really make an effort and wear makeup. If he puts on a little weight, she tells him he needs to walk to work (5 miles away), only have 1 meal a day, asks if he is eating to much junk food, and when she visits touches his belly and makes comments like "ow dear". We have decided I will be a sahm because with the cost of travel and childcare I would be just about breaking even or paying to work depending on how many days I can work from home. MIL is not happy with this telling my DH I should just work because I need a job and even tried to bribe him by saying she will pay for part of nursery (not an option because she would hold this over our head).

She constantly talks to me and DH as if we are children. When DH told her I was pregnant she was almost in tears on the phone asking how will we cope. For the first month after giving birth she would ring every day, giving unsolicited advice and pointing out the obvious. I really have to grit my teeth when talking to her because she constantly talks to me like a child.

She uses emotional blackmail to try and get what she wants. Like after always spending Christmas at her house, the first time we were going to spend it with my parents her reply was "but it could be your grandmothers last Christmas". One weekend we said she couldn't visit because I had a bad mastitis infection and I was devastated we had to top up with formula because our baby was losing weight. I especially didn't want to see her because she has been against breastfeeding since I have got pregnant making negative comments. She was constantly telling my husband "my friend started formula feeding and they and baby were much happier, and they got a prep machine and it was so much easier, ill get you one and you can formula feed". She also came into my bedroom when I was trying to breastfeed and she told me “its just so difficult, there is really no shame in giving up”. Because she couldn't visit that weekend she was shouting at DH over the phone saying "I'm just trying to help", and then she didn't visit for months and just sent texts implying we were stopping her from visiting and when will I be able to see my grandchild (we were just stopping her that one weekend). She also looked for any minor excuse to try to blame him or scold him for something.

She will lie and deny a lot of the things I'm saying here or say “I’m just trying to help”. She will deny things when its really obvious she is lying. She once made my DH buy a dress for me and his sister when they were in a store together. Mine mysteriously disappeared and his sister got it as a gift from MIL and when my DH asked where the dress was she denied all knowledge of its existence.

AIBU to be annoyed by this? Is this normal standard parent/ Mil behaviour?

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ReggieKrayDoYouKnowMyName · 18/12/2018 10:32

Distance yourself. Definitely not standard behaviour.

PumpkinKitty82 · 18/12/2018 10:36

Your dh needs to open his eyes and realise just because it’s become the norm for him doesn’t mean it is!
Controlling and nasty behaviour from a grown woman and she’s needs to be told.
I’d just start ignoring all her requests and doing/ buying / sending what you like , when you like .
She sounds vile .
We’re always getting little digs from my mil but I put her straight right then and there , she still tries it though!

Davespecifico · 18/12/2018 10:36

She sounds like she has anxiety issues and a few other issues that make her overbearing and rude.

You don't need to feel guilty. Step back and calmly plan how much you're willing to see her and do with/for her. Agree it with your DH.

TuttiFrutti · 18/12/2018 10:41

I had a MIL very similar to yours. It took me years, and a therapist's visit, to work out how to deal with her.

She sounds like a narcissist and a control freak, just like mine. It's interesting your dh says "that's just the way she is" - this is exactly what my dh would say. Families of narcissists tend to grow up with the expectation that they are allowed to have their own way. Nobody in the family will stand up to them.

Set up some boundaries. You can't change her behaviour but you can change how you respond and - crucially - how much time you spend with her.

TuttiFrutti · 18/12/2018 10:44

The therapist said people like this are incapable of having adult-adult relationships. So her relationship with you and with your dh is parent-child, with her being the parent - bossing you around, telling you what to eat, how much to spend on presents, etc. If you make this difficult for her, eg by saying no to her demands, she will push and push, and ultimately if she realises she has "lost" she will switch to parent-child the other way round, with her being the child - crying like a baby and having toddler tantrums.

Crimbobimbo · 18/12/2018 10:46

Tell her too fuck off she's a lunatic

Do you not argue with her?

Littleraindrop15 · 18/12/2018 10:49

Your mil is batshit but your husband is also taking the piss and has no respect for you! I don't know if I could live with him being so blasé about the whole situation

NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 18/12/2018 10:52

TuttiFrutti
I was beginning to think she might be a narcissist, she claims her mother is a narcissist (her mother comes across as nice and laid back tho), so could be a generation thing because SIL is just like my MIL.

How did you get your husband on board with the boundaries and spending less time with mother? Because that is the biggest obstacle for me getting DH on board

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NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 18/12/2018 10:53

TuttiFrutti
Thanks the parent -child relationship you describe sounds spot on

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AdamNichol · 18/12/2018 10:56

She once didn't speak to him for 2 weeks
worried Mil will find this and take the huff with my DH over it

I'd enjoy the 2 weeks peace!
Seriously, DH needs to mtfu. Enabling narcissism like this helps no one - including MIL who probably gets anxious about the ability of her brood to cope in the absence of her directives.
DH needs to confront the behaviour, and then make his own decisions. MIL can get on board or slide into oblivion.

Tighnabruaich · 18/12/2018 10:56

After 15 years of biting my tongue, keeping the peace and putting up with MIL and her nonsense, I'm sad to say I blew up at her one day. She was so shocked, no one in the family had ever stood up to her or called her out on her nonsense. But a dam had burst and it all came out. We were staying a long weekend at her house (she lives a long way away). I went up to our bedroom and DH came up and said could I not just 'keep the anger' from my voice as she was upset. I said, what about MY feelings? Why do her feelings trump mine?' I was shaking with rage and adrenaline. I was packing my suitcase to leave it was so bad. We now no longer speak and DH goes to visit her on his own. I'd had enough. What I suppose I'm trying to say is, don't let it build up and up, and fester away inside you, cos one day you might just explode with rage as I did. (Mind you, I felt fantastic afterwards!)

SarahET · 18/12/2018 10:59

Wowza, how have you been so patient! I'm very impressed.

Sorry I have no advice, my MIL is lovely and husband certainly wouldn't put up with being treated like that if she wasn't.

Good luck, hope you find a resolution.

AdamNichol · 18/12/2018 11:00

How did you get your husband on board

That could be tricky. Taking an adversarial stance may pitch you into a wife v mil war; and no one really wants that.
Perhaps you need to trailblaze here? Make your own choices about what you do or don't do, and if MIL gets all demanding, make DH do it all. All the while keep pointing out that neither of you are beholden to complying with her demands. Just keep living in the promised land until he can see how much greener the grass is.
But, you can only open the door - not push him thru. If he won't cut the apron strings.......(and it is won't, not can't)

Missingstreetlife · 18/12/2018 11:05

She's a control freak but you don't have to take any notice of anything she says, visit when you don't want to or even speak to her.
That's interesting is a useful phrase. Don't get in an argument, just blank her or change the subject (gardens, the weather, brexit, strictly results).

TuttiFrutti · 18/12/2018 11:12

OP, I never really did get my dh on board. He kind of understood, but years of conditioning when he was growing up meant that he couldn't really stand up to her. But just having it all explained by the therapist meant I felt a lot calmer about it, and no longer felt angry - I even felt a bit sorry for my MIL. I set boundaries however, like how long each visit would be.

My MIL died a couple of years ago so my problem is now in the past tense. I wish you luck in dealing with yours.

NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 18/12/2018 11:12

She once didn't speak to him for 2 weeks This was when he was living at home, she just blanked him and pretended he didn't exist for 2 weeks, which seems abusive to do that to your teenage child

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tillytrotter1 · 18/12/2018 11:15

That's interesting is a useful phrase

'Right', that's far more succinct! People like her only get away with it because they're pandered to, if they're ignored, eventually they get the message, might take years though!

HJWT · 18/12/2018 11:17

God if that was my MIL I would either cut all contact or leave my husband.... I thought my MIL was bad fu*k me 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

DarlingNikita · 18/12/2018 11:22

She's a cunt. I'd have stopped seeing her for any one of the incidents of 'I hope your not trying for a baby', the gold digger email or the comments about making an effort and wearing makeup, so I think you've been tolerant well beyond the call of duty!

I wouldn't see her or go to her house any more. Your DH can take your DS to visit her if he must. And tell DH you don't want to hear about any of the drama when she phones –if he's happy to put up with her mithering him about presents and thank-you cards he can crack on, but you don't need or want to hear about it all.

NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 18/12/2018 11:26

Should I worry about how she will behave with my DC? Especially if she shes him unsupervised when he is older?

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DarlingNikita · 18/12/2018 11:28

Don't let her have him unsupervised.

NeedAGoodUsernameThatIsntTaken · 18/12/2018 11:32

My MIL died a couple of years ago so my problem is now in the past tense Her daughter, my SIL is just like her, a mini MIL, uses the same type of emotional blackmail and will be huffy if she doesn't get her way (might explain why MIL and SIL don't always get on). Problem could just get replaced.
One Christmas when we were all opening presents together we didn't get everything SIL asked for, we still spent more than she did on us, and she said "is this it". She didn't even say thank you

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Drum2018 · 18/12/2018 11:32

Your Dh needs to grow a pair and tell her to lay off. Then he needs to stop telling her anything about your relationship. And you then pull back on contact if you so wish. Stop sending gifts and cards to relatives and if she texts Dh to remind him ignore it. Bottom line is you are both adults creating your own little family and you need to stand up for yourselves and set very clear boundaries now.

RomanyRoots · 18/12/2018 11:34

i'd have to go nc with someone like this, but why does your dh allow it?
You have been so patient, but this amount of control and interference in your life is too much.
I think you need to ask yourself if you want your mil to control the rest of your life and your children's.
Dh is old enough to sort himself out, but she could have a really bad effect on your children. Speak to dh and get this stopped now, even if it means going nc

RomanyRoots · 18/12/2018 11:39

Gosh. I've just read about your dh, nobody can help you as it's not a mil problem it's your dh.
No decent man would allow his family to be poisoned by your mil, how can you be with a man who is allowing this to happen?
Why are you allowing this to happen, my child would be nowhere near her and i'd be at home with dc over Christmas.
Stop letting your dh treat you like this, you are worth so much more.