In my pronounciation of 'proven'

[CollyWombles]

Help settle a discussion between DH and I please!

I pronounce it as 'Pro-ven'
DH says its 'Proo-ven'

I am Scottish, he is South African, whether that makes a difference!

This is what Google thinks..

The traditional English pronunciation of proven is [proo-v'n], and the Scottish pronunciation is [proe-v'n], but because English people have become familiar with the Scottish legal term 'not proven' they too sometimes pronounce the word [proe-v'n].

Both are acceptable. Pro-ven is the original.

Pro- here (Manc), although to mix it up, DH from Scots borders say proo-

What is this ‘pro-ven as in legal’ business. It’s always been proo-ven in any legal thing I’ve seen (only ever on tv though!)

How do you say 'prove'. If that's with 'proo', then why would 'proven' not follow the same pronunciation?

NoWordForFluffy the English language doesn’t always follow such simple rules. You Drive but you have driven.

WidowTwonky

Scots law has three possible verdicts, Guilty, Not Guilty and Not Proven. Always pronounced pro-ven.

People look at me odd when I say 'pro-ven' (lived in Scotland for 12 years) so I make a point to say 'proo-ven'

Prooven irish

Proo-ven (London)

Proo-ven, as in proof.

I'm going to complicate the matter further by saying that proof and proo-ven don't sound remotely alike in my accent Although I'm trying to 'hear' both words in my head to see if they sound similar in other accents. But considering that I'm not even sure how I pronounce this word, I'm not having much luck with imagining it in other accents!

I would say pro-ven - Scottish family and when I think of this word, I think of the Scottish legal term. I live in the north of England, and most would say proo-ven. Think it’s just an accent thing. Would be interested t hear a southern English, Welsh or Irish pronunciation.

What do you say when you are leaving bread to rise op?

I think either pro-ven or proo-ven is fine.

Both.
If I was using it in a sentence I’d say proo-ven.
But if I was talking about a Scottish court verdict I’d say not pro-ven.

Actually thinking about it though, I'd say "proo-ve" e.g. " you can't proo-ve anything" but "pro-ven" as in "the verdict was not pro-ven"...

#nothelpful

Pro-ven

Also Scottish

Just say "proved"

I'll get my coat.

I say proo and have never heard any other pronunciation.

Pro-ven for both me and DH, also both Scottish.

I would say that I am leaving bread to rise I suppose? Never left bread to rise. Might say leaving it to rest or sit maybe?

It's weird as I would say Proo-ved and Proo-ving but not say Proo-ven. Definitely Pro-ven!

Ah DH is a chef so told me leaving bread to rise is called prooooving. I googled it and it seems to be called proofing, which I would pronounce proofing, like sound proofing!

I’m surprised by this,
When are you all using it? It’s not often necessary in conversation, unless I’m talking about the wrong things

I'm Scottish and say either.

Weird. I say 'proo' but in South East England and never heard of that Scottish verdict (but sounds like a sensible idea tbh!)

Proo-van

West Yorkshire