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A United Ireland

580 replies

poppiesallykatie · 13/12/2018 00:13

Not a goady thread or to stir, but how many are against it or for it? Obviously many in NI want to part of the Republic, many in NI want to part of Great Britain, how do the British people feel about it?

OP posts:
DGRossetti · 17/12/2018 08:57

The gfa only came about in '96.

And while some of NI seem happy to stay there, it's clear that the RoI is in 2018 - 22 years on.

It would be criminally unjust if the RoI was expected to pay the price for the intransigence of some in NI. real justice would be if the intransigent paid the price of their intransigence. Which is what might be happening now.

Dippledorus · 17/12/2018 09:17

GFA was 1998.

treaclesoda · 17/12/2018 09:27

Some of the most intransigent, and noisiest, people in N Ireland are extremely wealthy, and are therefore not likely to suffer in any real way. Money can protect you from a lot.

Unfortunately they shout the loudest and bring their working class supporters with them, and they're the ones who will suffer.

DGRossetti · 17/12/2018 09:36

GFA was 1998

(I knew)

makes things even more impressive for the RoI - 2 fewer years in which they've moved on.

OkPedro · 17/12/2018 17:58

Feck sake that's twice I've said the gfa was '96.. I don't why! But it was obviously 1998

ginyogarepeat · 18/12/2018 15:40

Just RTTT now. OP - how goady to refer to NI as a ghetto zone. Completely untrue. Also @Auntiepatricia - costs depend on which part of ROI you're referring to. Dublin - yes, house prices several times that of Belfast. Elsewhere - not so much. I have relatives in a part of the ROI where house prices are fairly similar to the (cheap) area of NI I live in. And groceries are most definitely not double!

JaneJeffer · 18/12/2018 15:43

Is it just me or do other Irish posters start singing A Nation Once Again to themselves every time this comes up on Active?

Auntiepatricia · 18/12/2018 15:44

I think we’ll have to disagree on that! My friend is looking at an ok house 2 hrs from Dublin and not near anywhere in particular and the house is €425! Equilivent and even within 1hr if Belfast would be about £200k or even less.

Butter is cheaper down home! I’ll give you that!

Inkspellme · 18/12/2018 17:58

There are houses €425 k 2 hours from Dublin but it’s nit a typical price for that distance but it depends on what direction from Dublin. South - yep expensive. North and west not so much.

Lol - at a nation once again. I suppose I can see how it looks that way but if you read back you will see plenty of people from Ireland who cannot see themselves voting yes in a reunification referendum.

ElspethFlashman · 18/12/2018 18:57

Er.... 2 hours from Dublin is the West..... Hmm

JimCricket · 18/12/2018 19:30

I’m from NI & want a united Ireland

Inkspellme · 18/12/2018 20:23

2 hours from Dublin could be West. Could be Wexford too. That’s not West. Could be Drogheda or Dundalk - they’re not West.

DroningOn · 18/12/2018 20:49

Any chance Scotland could join? United Kingdom of Celtic Nations has a nice ring to it

Auntiepatricia · 18/12/2018 20:55

Droning it would get called the bloody UK😂

Inkspellme · 18/12/2018 20:58

Scotland would be welcome but it’s a Republic. No royal family.

The Celtic Republic?

itsalmostfriday · 18/12/2018 23:48

@JaneJeffer lol yes it's ringing in my head... along with the one road!
I would absolutely love a united ireland in my lifetime.
Our land was stolen and we want it back 🇮🇪

theymademejoin · 20/12/2018 13:28

@Inkspellme - There are houses €425 k 2 hours from Dublin but it’s nit a typical price for that distance but it depends on what direction from Dublin. South - yep expensive. North and west not so much.*

Try Galway. Loads of areas where €425 wouldn't get you much.

Auntiepatricia · 20/12/2018 13:50

My hometown in Laois is more expensive than Belfast.

Inkspellme · 20/12/2018 15:18

There’s plenty of areas in Meath which don’t come to that cost.

Auntiepatricia · 20/12/2018 20:19

So now your comparing Meath to Belfast?

shesabloodywitch · 20/12/2018 20:37

British here - and until the NI people agree to a untied Ireland it is part of the U.K. and should be treated as such. We should support them completely. Would be more than happy to lose Scotland though - think it was unfair the English weren't allowed to vote in the referendum Grin

WeeBean · 20/12/2018 21:13

Born and bred in NI and despite its obvious problems I absolutely love the place. I'm from a Protestant background but have been an atheist since school. We were pretty poor growing up so spent most of our holidays in NI/ROI mostly Fermanagh and Donegal where we happily played with children of all backgrounds. There weren't integrated schools round my way growing up but I hope to send my own kids to one and I vote for the Green party as from experience anyone that puts a flag on their propaganda does not have the best interests of our citizens at heart. For what it's worth I have come across a hell of a lot of people similar to me through school and various jobs, it seems to me that we go unheard and unnoticed because Unionists and Nationalists shout louder.

I consider myself Northern Irish, rather than British or Irish and there's proof a growing number of our citizens think the same. However when abroad and people struggle with the whole 'NI' thing I say I'm Irish as I feel a lot more Irish than British. Ideally I'd love NI to be independent, I think the British Government have shown almost complete disregard for NI and its people and I have little to no respect for them as a result. How this whole situation wasn't considered before Brexit I don't know but proves we're a second thought.

I would be opposed to a United Ireland because I very much appreciate the NHS, and as a public servant I don't know what it would mean for my job. I'd also be concerned about losing my Northern Irish identity (I love Irish League football and the national team for example, that would all change). I also highly doubt that ROI would want us, beyond romantic reasons it wouldn't make economic sense for them.

We're consistently let down by our politicians in NI and it frustrates me no end, they don't give a shit about us because tribal point scoring is more important to them. They should all have been thrown out months ago for collapsing government and not coming to an agreement, the whole situation is completely ridiculous and they aren't fit for purpose. Schools and health care are suffering as a result but it doesn't impact them because they're on a handy wage. It makes my blood boil, the DUP and Sinn Fein are the worst things to have happened to this country.

We may have peace here but it's extremely fragile and for me the most important thing is not tipping it over the edge. Too many lives have been lost and damaged, family and friends of ours among them, nothing is worth going back to those times.

Inkspellme · 20/12/2018 21:20

@ Auntiepatricia. Nope it’s just a general comment about house prices in an area less then two hours from Dublin. Which is what the original €425k price tag came from.

Happier now?

Auntiepatricia · 20/12/2018 21:57

The point of the discussion was that Belfast is extremely cheap compared to housing in the Republic. Not that there are places 2 hrs from Dublin where you can buy a very ordinary house for €435k (which you can). Well done coming up with Meath, it’s just not really the point.

Inkspellme · 20/12/2018 22:01

Actually the €425k refers to a post where somebody said that their friend was buying a house for that price 2 hours from Dublin.

Feel free to find it. It’s there if you read the thread.

Well done on not reading the whole thread.