Mrs May. Who's going to replace her as PM?

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After her performance yesterday it's simply a matter of time? Or is it? Who is fit to replace her? I can't think of a time when there was nobody I'd entrust the country to by voting for them but now here we are. What on earth is going to happen?

I think at this seasonal time Hugh Grant should get a shot at it.

I doubt if any of the hard-Brexiteers would get the requisite votes to become leader. They could not raise enough supporters within the party to force a vote of no confidence.

Staunch anti Tory but I do admire the woman, what a shit heap landed on her and the stress she must be enduring daily... But what a cock up today, we won't be taking the vote because we can't win. Well at least face the fucking vote out and go from there. The whole thing is a shambles.

Take the EU offer and cancel Brexit.

The panel of mock the week or have I got news for you should do it collectively.

I agree with people saying there is no need to call her Mrs May, but my pet peeve is 'Boris' or 'BoJo' as if he is a cuddly, harmless eccentric. He is very far from that. He is a self-serving, medacious sleaze who has helped lead this country down a dangerous track. He is appalling. 'Johnson' will do very well.

None of the hardcore Brexiters want to do it, as then they would be completely outed as having no plan at all.

I don't feel remotely sorry for her. Any twinge of sympathy I might have had is cured by thinking of her immigration vans, the deportation of Windrush citizens, some of whom were prevented even from attending the funerals of family members, her lying, her cavalier dismissal of Remainers - those 'citizens of nowhere', and her branding of EU citizens as 'queue jumpers.' I find her an extremely unpleasant and rather dim woman.

I though Keir Starmer too, or Yvette Cooper. Stand out as adults among the possible replacements for May. But how to get to the point where they'd be in the running I don't know.

I think Theresa May has now had her vision clouded by her desperate need to get a deal through. You can't just take away the house's right to vote on something because they're not going to pass what you want them to! It may buy her time but it's a step too far, she now looks like a mad dictator (though I don't think that's her actual motivation).

I am worried about her health as well though, I'd hate to be her husband seeing her putting herself through this.

What's the leadership election process in the Conservative Party? I too doubt that any of the ERG group could get enough support from MPs, but I think they are bafflingly popular at grass roots level?

It will be typical - the woman will do all the hard work, 2 years of trying to get the best deal for the country, & I genuinely believe she has tried her hardest, she get ousted at the 11th hour, a man will swoop in and clean up & he’ll be the hero.

Yep, this is exactly what will happen. I can't see how anyone else would be doing any better tbh.

Agree about Johnson as well - comes across as a loveable, harmless character who will inject a bit of humour and interest into proceedings if he becomes leader.

Just no.

I used to feel quite sorry for her as TBH I think brexit is just unworkable whoever is doing it, but after yesterday's fiasco I have lost all sympathy. She is dragging the country over a cliff edge out of sheer bloody stubbornness.

IME the press and broadcast news regularly call politicians "Mr Cameron" and Mrs May" (or "Ms Eagle" or however they style themselves) usually after using their full name at the start of a report.

I was also coming on to say can we drop the 'Mrs May' bollocks, it makes my teeth itch every time I hear it - which is often.

But as to who could/would replace her, I have no idea. Whoever it is will probably be committing career suicide so let's hope it's Boris Johnson

I don't particularly agree with TM's politics but OMG I feel extremely sorry for the pressure she is under at the moment.

Rees-Mogg has no leadership ambitions but is happy to snipe from the sidelines. Gove is too clever to want to be leader right now. Johnson, depressingly/frighteningly, is firm favourite among the party to be next leader.

my pet peeve is 'Boris' or 'BoJo' as if he is a cuddly, harmless eccentric. He is very far from that. He is a self-serving, medacious sleaze who has helped lead this country down a dangerous track. He is appalling. 'Johnson' will do very well.

Agree with this. I've said this ad nauseam, but I will never forgive my fellow Londoners for voting the cunt in as mayor (TWICE!). I think they did it for a laugh, in the spirit of Boaty McBoatface, thinking that as mayor he'd be amusing and relatively harmless; but what it did was make him the Tory it was OK to like.

Is there anyone who would put themselves forward for PM? It's an impossible job in this present climate.

Everyone seems to be telling TM she's got it wrong, yet nobody is offering a solution - because there isn't one.

Half the country don't want anything to do with Brexit. The other half don't want anything to do with EU.

If TM and her government decide on hard brexit half the country will be up in arms. If they decide to remain the other half of the country will be up in arms.

Impossible!

Hmm...

Voldemogg? Never even held a junior cabinet position. Also evil, from the 19th century and only interested in own bank account.

Farridge? Liar, person of interest in FBI investigation, tried and failed to become an MP 7 times, used to sing Hitler youth songs.

Gove? Pob. Possibly also Cthulu.

Raab? Only realised we were an island reliant on imports a few weeks ago.

Davis? Twit who furtled about for 18 months before flouncing.

BoJo? Chinless, spineless wonder who will go with whatever he thinks will give him most power with absolutely no shame whatsoever.

Leadsom? Well, she is a mother...

McVey? Universally hated.

There is no-one. Plus, coming into contact with political reality shatters even the most virulent unicorn-fondling Brexit fantasists' dreams.

It really is no deal (unlikely to get through parliament as it would, y'know, screw the country massively), May's deal (also unlikely to get through parliament as it doesn't deliver sufficient unicorns) or no Brexit (might get through parliament depending on amount of flying pigs and public opinion/corporate pressure/threat to MPs' incomes and jobs).

I've never seen anything like it. This is supposed to be the mother of all parliaments. And they're running around grabbing maces and taking back control by becoming a de facto dictator.

I was also coming on to say can we drop the 'Mrs May' bollocks, it makes my teeth itch every time I hear it - which is often

Yet she’s been referred to as a C* on the same thread.

Whichever of the front runners take over from her it's going to be political suicide so hopefully it's Johnson or Gove as they'll be lost in the rough for years after that

I hope to fuck it's not Gove or Johnson. Or Rees Mogg, but I doubt even the Tories would be that stupid.

Oh yes they are. Radio 4 this morning Steve Baker was floating:

Esther "we can leave on WTO terms and negotiate an FTA during the transition period" McVey (she might have got this idea from David Davis)

Dominic "I didn't realise Dover was so close to France" Raab

David "thick as mince, lazy as a toad, and vain as Narcissus" Davis

Boris "I've had my sensible haircut but I'm still a lazy fuckwit" Johnson

God help us.

Yet she’s been referred to as a C on the same thread*

Yet had a man referred to her in that way there would be hell to pay on these pages, you're not wanting her referred to as Mrs May and yet you find that word acceptable!! Says an awful lot about many of the people on this site.

So having been told by all and sundry her and the EUs joint last proposal for a treaty will be voted down, she calls off the vote and goes yet again to negotiate the non-negotiable and is wrong again.

She can't please everyone. Nothing but cancelling Brexit would please some. Cancelling Brexit would infuriate others.

Democracy is showing all of it's drawbacks over this.

Perhaps we should become an absolute Monarchy until 2021.

Could somebody please link to the footage you are discussing?

If they decide to remain the other half of the country will be up in arms

What, like at the last pro-Brexit 'march'? Didn't three people and a dog turn up to that? I'm quaking in my boots.

Despise her as I do. I hope she stays
I mean let's face it. The Tories are going to be in power for the next 1,000 years. Therefore its better the cunt you know than the cunt you don't.

That made me laugh so loud.

"I've said this ad nauseam, but I will never forgive my fellow Londoners for voting the cunt in as mayor (TWICE!). I think they did it for a laugh, in the spirit of Boaty McBoatface, thinking that as mayor he'd be amusing and relatively harmless; but what it did was make him the Tory it was OK to like."

I get the feeling this could also apply to a lot of Leave voters.

(passing no judgment here I hasten to add).

I can't believe I'm saying this but Jeremy Hunt has been the only cabinet minister I've had any respect for recently. Sajid Javid also a possibility. I would rather one of them than Gove or Johnson, shudder. (On a temporary basis until Labour sort themselves out and appoint a useful leader, or David Miliband comes riding to the rescue to lead a new centrist European party - apparently a possibility.)