Ian Huntley ! This is wrong...

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I just don't have words

"datun When I asked what criteria that poster would use to cede any women's rights to transwomen they said none. So unless I've misunderstood. That means none. Nada. Nil"

That's where we're differing - not all of us are saying no to all transwomen as they'll always be a man whatever they do.

I don't know how you've got the nerve to disagree with somebody who is actually trans. Bit there you go. You go ahead and agree with transactivists, not transsexuals.

Until they can change an X chromosome to a Y chromosome or vice versa, then you are stuck with the generic hand you are dealt.

For goodness sake it's a factual biological categorisation, not a case of making the semis of Britain's Got Talent.

Bowl give it up man, you are never getting an answer to that.

If it helps, you are not extreme.

You've been listening to too much transactivism.

Actually no, I'd still be on the fence if it weren't for the FWR board.

You're focusing on emotion as if it's a mean spirited refusal to let people into some kind of special party. It's not. It's not about individual people or feelings at all, it's about the world wide rights of a biological class, half the human race, who already have a lot of problems, have vulnerable people in their population and can't afford stupid damaging law to happen based on sentimentality. There are many, many other ways to meet the needs of all groups in society.

Indeed.

Actually no, I'd still be on the fence if it weren't for the FWR board.

Mmmm-hmmm.

Actually no, I'd still be on the fence if it weren't for the FWR board.

Said the 177,000 women who came for the nappies and stayed for the feminism.

datun I don't know how you've got the nerve to disagree with somebody who is actually trans

I'm AGREEING with the poster! The bit you quoted and stick in there with your answer, I meant you, as in this is why we are differing, as you and others won't accept any as ever being women!!!
I honestly think you must be misreading on purpose or - just
It's... just.
That's not what I said.

as you and others won't accept any as ever being women!!!

Humans can’t change sex. How do you say a man is a woman?

Mmmm-hmmm

Yep...

Nope, what he needs is a good beating. A good proper beating with steel toe capped boots, baseball bat and knuckle dusters. And repeat this for everyday of the remainder of his life.

Verbeena. Here is a direct question, please can I have a clear answer.

You seem to believe that at some point transwomen stop being men and become women, or have I misunderstood?

If so, when is that point?

Verbeena- that poster acknowledges that all transwomen are male. And has said there is currently no criteria under which you should automatically cede women's rights to them.

So no spaces with transwomen in. None.

Bowl give it up man, you are never getting an answer to that

Answered near the beginning of the thread. If people can't see it, what is the point of saying it again?

Can you answer my question?

Verbeena- that poster acknowledges that all transwomen are male

Yes, biologically male. I said the same.

So you don’t believe that a transwoman will ever be a woman?

Yes, biologically male. I said the same.

Excellent.

They also said that no women's rights should be ceded currently.

Mmmm-hmmm.

Yes, really, and the fact that you can't believe it is a) tediously symptomatic and b) your loss, ultimately.

So when you say ‘not all of us’ here: That's where we're differing - not all of us are saying no to all transwomen as they'll always be a man whatever they do. does that ‘not all of us include you?

visitorsentrance does that ‘not all of us include you?

Not all of us does include me, yes. As I don't want to exclude all transwomen whatever they do whereas some on here do.

As I don't want to exclude all transwomen whatever they do whereas some on here do.

Including the only transwoman on the thread! Because they realise that it is detrimental to them, too. At least in the short term.

Answered near the beginning of the thread. If people can't see it, what is the point of saying it again?

Yeah, funny how you can repeatedly post this but can't repeat your answer to that question

I’m not aware of a clear answer as to why my stance is extreme. If someone could point me towards the time of the post that answers I can stop asking.