Ian Huntley ! This is wrong...

[HJWT]

I just don't have words

There should be a special prison facility of child murderers and rapists anyway imho.

starcrossed Shame that you will not answer me though as it makes you look a bit silly

So be it. I've told you why I won't.

But to clarify, Huntley is violent. I don't want to see him or any violent offender in a vulnerable transperson's or women's space.

But if TWAW, how are they to be kept out?

This thread was about one prisoner. If I don't want to participate in a discussion on women's changing rooms that's my prerogative.

Not true - some mods will delete anything someone complains about. This is often evidenced by the deletion being undeleted when the poster argues the case

Vicky What, that many though? It wasn't just a one off, there was a fair few of them.

if they're deleting ya you must be being pretty blatant as they're pretty lenient usually

I didnt see the posts

But posts are deleted for all sorts of reasons

sooty This thread was about one prisoner. If I don't want to participate in a discussion on women's changing rooms that's my prerogative

Same, one prisoner, who deserves absolutely nothing.
I'm not saying no to all the transwomen just because of trans extremists.

So be it. I've told you why I won't

I've scanned back up and can see no posts that explains why you don't 'accept' Huntley, but do 'accept' others.

Rufus I didnt see the posts

I did.

Oh i missed Vickys post

I used to go

BLOODY HELL WHAT DID (insert name of poster) SAY????

Now not so much

Posts get deleted for saying 'bless'.

verbeena

Apologies

But that means nothing to me from any poster on here

Without a screenshot or direct quote

I'm not saying no to all the transwomen just because of trans extremists.

So the transwomen who are in prison for non-payment of fines. They should be allowed to shower and bed down with the women?

This thread was about one prisoner. If I don't want to participate in a discussion on women's changing rooms that's my prerogative.

Of course, you're free not to enter any discussion or respond to any question following a comment as you wish.

But making a stand on Huntley within the context of the whole self-id, TWAW debate means you have to at least examine how other people identifying as women might be affected by any 'policy' you might have in mind. I assume (but correct me if I'm wrong) that you don't believe someone like Huntley is 'real' trans at all - or that you think a line needs to be drawn where someone with specific offending history is concerned.

Within any discussion of a specific individual's case, therefore, consideration has to be given to: who decides who is 'real' trans and who draws the line?

I once saw a post of "Yawn" deleted.

So thank you MNHQ for your message.

Apparently my post deletions are because I pointed out to a couple of posters that their views would be considered transphobic by transactivists. Apparently this is 'uncivil'.

I called them this ironically to illustrate this point because it is absolutely true.

I look forward to any future accusations - ironic or otherwise - of transphobia being deleted on this site.

And, as others have indicated, are Verbeena and Sooty suggesting that men who have no criminal record (I emphasise 'criminal record') for violence should be freely allowed into women's prisons and other spaces? Because they say they're women?

The knowledge that the mods have a hard job on here means that i am unable to post what i would like about the 'uncivil' comment

Apparently my post deletions are because I pointed out to a couple of posters that their views would be considered transphobic by transactivists. Apparently this is 'uncivil'.

Oh good lord. Women on here get called transphobic relentlessly. But saying it back to illustrate how empty it is gets you deleted?

Don't tell me that transwomen get treated like women.

I once saw a post of "Yawn" deleted

Yawn in itself isn't delete worthy, if it was on one of these threads though I can well believe that it was used as a put down or to belittle someone else with a differing view.
That tends to happen, somebody saying yawn and then others piling in to laugh as well and call them tedious or putting them to sleep or something.
Personal pile ons. Yawn would be bleh in that context.

cougar

I changed my name to yawning reindeer once

Now im bewildered in homage to the recently departed thebewilderness

Well, at least Nicola can‘t be pestered regarding those muders of this guy Ian Huntley, now that dead naming is basically outlawed.

They‘ll have to walk pretty much on egg shells in prison though. I can already see Nicola filing a complaint, whenever the reason for her imprisonment comes up... literal violence, I tell ya.

Vicky And, as others have indicated, are Verbeena and Sooty suggesting that men who have no criminal record (I emphasise 'criminal record') for violence should be freely allowed into women's prisons and other spaces? Because they say they're women?

No, because I all along have said I don't agree with self ID.

cor

we get people turning up to FWR all the bloody time to call us trabsphobic

and I consider it incredibly flipping uncivil. to borrow a phrase, it really boils my piss

now I know that uncivil accusations of trabsphobia can be deleted I'm so reporting all those posts. I trust you will be acting in an even handed way @MNHQ?

hey're deleting ya you must be being pretty blatant as they're pretty lenient usually

This led me to think that star had made a transphobic comment...hence the deletion

Was it not the case then...just 'uncivil'