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Ian Huntley ! This is wrong...

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HJWT · 09/12/2018 12:10

I just don't have words

Ian Huntley ! This is wrong...
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starcrossedseahorse · 09/12/2018 18:05

Apparently so. Confused

ilovesooty · 09/12/2018 18:06

Huntley poses a risk because of his offending history.

sackrifice · 09/12/2018 18:06

MNHQ - struggling to see anyone being less than civil here

Only yours deleted [so far]. Who did you upset?

CougarSquad · 09/12/2018 18:07

People can think and believe as they wish on trans issues.

If people are imposing their belief and removing the human rights of others then people will fight back.

Datun · 09/12/2018 18:09

Huntley poses a risk because of his offending history.

So does that mean we should segregate on the basis of offence?

starcrossedseahorse · 09/12/2018 18:10

I suppose it is because I used male pronouns for Huntley and White. Because they are MEN.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 09/12/2018 18:10

VerbeenaBeeks

No one cares if a woman says 'yes'. As in all decisions in life, it is ONLY the NO that matters. Nobody gets to define another woman's boundaries. Nobody. And if a woman is happy to share intimate spaces with men, let her use the men's facilities. I hope she pays attention to the limits of their boundaries too.

CougarSquad · 09/12/2018 18:10

As the Bewilderness used to post, your rights stop at the end of my nose.

Identify as whatever you like, you can't make everyone else believe you are what you identify as and insist upon compelled belief and speech, that's theft of others human rights.

ilovesooty · 09/12/2018 18:11

If someone has committed violent offences particularly against vulnerable people it is vital to minimise the risk they pose to others.

sackrifice · 09/12/2018 18:11

So does that mean we should segregate on the basis of offence?

Less than 1% of rapes even end in a conviction.

So that's 99% of rapists are apparently all fine to share spaces with women and girls. No problem.

starcrossedseahorse · 09/12/2018 18:13

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 09/12/2018 18:14

at the point Karen White was sent to prison, he was not a convicted rapist. He was a rapist of course, it's just that he hadn't been found out yet.

there are loads more actual rapists than convicted rapists.

and here's the thing - you can't tell if a man is a rapist or not just by looking at him.

part of safeguarding is taking reasonable measures to prevent harm ever occurring

keeping men separate from women when women are vulnerable is an entirely reasonable precaution

starcrossedseahorse · 09/12/2018 18:15

sooty you know full well that Huntley is a risk because he is a violent man. Stop dissembling.

VerbeenaBeeks · 09/12/2018 18:16

starcrossed Verbeena I cannot make sense of your last post

Figures.

ilovesooty · 09/12/2018 18:16

He is a violent offender whose risk to vulnerable people needs to be minimised.

BigChocFrenzy · 09/12/2018 18:17

Huntley is an evil bastard, who committed his crimes as a man
He would likely be able to commit further crimes if the authorities pander to his claim to be a woman and transfer him to a womens prison

However, he should be entitled to the same privileges / rights as other transwomen, which imo should only be 3rd spaces.
Transwomen should NOT be allowed into single sex spaces for women.

It is men who commit 98% of sexual offences and 85% of other serious crimes

We don't have a violent trans problem; we have a violent men problem
Most men - including transwomen - are decent human beings, not rapists or violent thugs.

However, we cannot tell in advance which men are predors and which are decent human beings.
This is why we must retain single sex spaces wherever women are vulnerable / at a physical disadvantage - in prisons, hospitals, refuges, changing rooms, loos, sport

starcrossedseahorse · 09/12/2018 18:18

Yes BCF!

BigChocFrenzy · 09/12/2018 18:19

Half the "trans" threads in Aibu seem to be complaining about "transphobia",
rather than warning of the dangers of self-ID

i.e. they are from those in favour of self-ID

starcrossedseahorse · 09/12/2018 18:19

Verbeena not sure what you meant by that comment either.

starcrossedseahorse · 09/12/2018 18:21

Yes it befuddles my mind to think that people blindly support this ideology without even giving it a cursory think through.

VerbeenaBeeks · 09/12/2018 18:21

BigChocFrenzy i.e. they are from those in favour of self-ID

Not in favour of self ID here, not sure who is.

Datun · 09/12/2018 18:22

If someone has committed violent offences particularly against vulnerable people it is vital to minimise the risk they pose to others.

What if it is men who haven't paid their fines? Should they be showering with the women who haven't paid theirs?

Ifangyow · 09/12/2018 18:24

Wouldn't it be lovely if he had the op, but was given too much anaesthetic so the evil fucker never woke up again.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 09/12/2018 18:24

What if it is men who haven't paid their fines? Should they be showering with the women who haven't paid theirs?

yes

single sex spaces aren't just about safety, they're about privacy and dignity

why do those people who support the idea that transwomen belong in women's spaces want to erode the privacy and dignity of female prisoners

don't you think they deserve some?

sackrifice · 09/12/2018 18:25

He is a violent offender whose risk to vulnerable people needs to be minimised.

The lengths some people woll go to, to not say that Huntley is a man.