To think schools will close, rubbish will rot and bodies won't be buried

[bananacake2134]

‏Local authorities making emergency plans for March 29th onwards 2019 for Crash Out Brexit (Leaving without a deal)

@faisalislam
NEW: Extraordinary Kent County Council No Deal Brexit document detailing “Operation Fennel” next month to hold 10,000 HGVs “on a routine basis”

-administration GCSEs/SATS

• waste services “delayed and disrupted”
• “difficulties with transport of the deceased”

Looks like there's a serious possibility of 1000s of our kids having wasted years of education as GCSE and A level exams could be cancelled.

emainders do seem to have an issue with forming a sentence without the use of foul language Sorry, I can't see the post you're talking about, but I agree, with you

Really.

So everyone who voted remain can't post without swearing

Do people who voted leave not swear on here then...I'm sure ive seen it

I think it isn't so much the kids and teachers getting to school that may affect exams; it's the exam papers being delivered (or not!) to the schools that could be a problem.

Oh, and Labour were only in power for half of the 70s. The Conservatives like to forget about the Heath Government (3 day week, schools closed, bodies unburied etc..).

@PoisonousSmurf - good job you aren't involved in logistics. You clearly know very little about roads being congested and people not being able to get through it to get to school or buy their dead. Or to get fuel to petrol stations. But, hey, let other people worry about that while you have big important thoughts.

You can fuck off. I personally know at least a hundred people who sweated blood to make sure that the millennium bug didn't bite. Including me.

And yet the likes of Russia, Italy and Korea did virtually nothing, and had very few problems. Funny that!

www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/Y2K-bug/

I can only assume that the people jeering have had no experience of Operation Stack. I was reading Mumsnet during the summer of 2015 when it was bad, and people still didn’t believe what it was like even as those affected talked about it in real time. A poor woman near Ashford couldn’t get herself to work or her child to nursery, and just kept being told “well you have to”, “just go a different way”, “you can’t be completely stuck, you just can’t”. It was a fucking nightmare for weeks and weeks on end. Businesses lost loads of trade and Kent Police had to foot the bill for sorting it all out. Thirty miles of HGVs going nowhere and £250million lost by the economy. So yes, we really do need to be ready for that shit again!

In Scotland when weather is bad enough to make roads dangerous teachers go to thier nearest school to teach kids who can get in. Its been happening for years. Why on earth would it be a problem for safeguarding? Over thinking much?

never mind if about 3 billion or so years the sun will expand 7 swallow the earth - of course before that an asteroid could crash...
seriously the rail network Kent has been seriously affected in the last year for commuters & the snarl up in traffic there is not infrequent - the problem is also exacerbated by the low numbers of border officers if I remember rightly I think there was a cut back on staff a while ago?

Unless you worked in IT in the late 90's please don't use the Millenium Bug as an example of "nothing happened so nothing will happen with a hrad brexit". That is absolute bollocks and you don't know what you are talking about. The reason why there were no severe ramifications with Y2K was that IT professionals and academics knew about it and anticipated the problem in the mid 1980s and hence had 15 years to prepare for it. Also, there was a small range of discrete, objective and undisputed ways to negate the upcoming problem by changing software accordingly. So 1000s and 1000s of software programmers went around re-mediating it in the 10 years leading up to 2000 (and 1999 which was also problematic). There was plenty of time to re-mediate in a controlled fashion and the fixes were relatively easy to perform. Unlike Brexit which has been a mad rush with no clear endpoints and a number of highly controversial, intractable problems with no clear agreed upon solutions.

I am pretty certain that exams aren’t going to be significantly impacted. It’s one area where a very stable, predominantly British workforce using British systems is an advantage.

I think the real risks are in;
-hospitals where there will be a dwindling of qualified staffing numbers in all jobs as we are so reliant on EU staff.

• schools reliant on EU teachers will suffer likewise
• transport in the shorter term as immigration control is inadequate to cope with new responsibilities.
• drugs supply and quality as we step outside the EU controls
• peace. Increased sectarian activity in NI. Increased far right activity that has both driven and been validated by the referendum result.
• increased criminal activity as society becomes more polarised and there is a greater wealth divide.
• worsening human rights and in particular rights for the disabled, women and muslims. More hate crime.
• increased poverty. Increased inflation.
• worsening working conditions. More zero hours contracts.

On the positive side;

• oh no, there isn’t a positive side except perhaps more jobs in Costa and as chambermaids.

hahahaha "like the millennium bug" shows the ignornace of those using the argument.

And you complain that people think you are stupid.

I have to say the possibility of GCSEs being cancelled if there were real mayhem had occurred to me too and I wondered if sixth form colleges would just accept mock exam results (which probably wouldn't be as high but they don't really matter in the scheme of things, once you've got your A levels, BTEC etc).

However, I think the chances of a no deal Brexit are now vanishingly small (as long as the ECJ follows the advocate general to say we can unilaterally withdraw Art 50 - if that is a possibility that will happen rather than no deal) so I think my son will have to do his exams after all.

mutters about fucking England being the centre of the world again

Scotland will be affected by a no deal Brexit too. And the exams are around the same time of year are they not? Northern Ireland and Wales do GCSEs by the way not just England. And the Channel Islands.

@bananacake2134 Fri 07-Dec-18 08:42:12 - Parliament can't stop it bellini.

Utter drivel. Of course the UK Parliament can stop it. The top EU lawyer has said so:
www.politico.eu/article/eu-top-judge-uk-can-unilaterally-withdraw-article-50/

Quote "until such time as the withdrawal agreement is formally concluded, provided that the revocation has been decided upon in accordance with the member state’s constitutional requirements, is formally notified to the European Council and does not involve an abusive practice," Article 50 (the one that May invoked to leave the EU) can be revoked without so much as a 'Sorry for wasting your time guys'.

There is still time to sort this sorry mess out, if the feeling and want to do so is there.

I think the chances of no deal actually happening are pretty much zero to be honest.

Looking more and more likely by the day that brexit isn't going to happen full stop.

But I have no idea. Anyone who says they do is lying. We are all just guessing. We can make educated guesses, but they are still just guesses.

Parliement can of course stop it.

No one parliament can bind another, its called parliamentary sovereignty, you know what brexit was all about?

Come on then brexiteers, tell us all about how Y2K went, cos you'r talking complete shit as usual and everybody is sick of it.

I also love how people on here, who have no expertise or actual knowledge spout project fear at Kent Council who have obviously done some serious research.

Dumb as rocks and too ignorant to see it.

"tell us all about how Y2K went, "

Ignorance personified.

Let’s see how many conservative MPs are still in office in five years time and how many have gone on to start lucrative careers

And how many Labour MPs do the same! They're all as bad as eachother, that's why we're in this mess. If anything thinks Corbyn and Labour could do a better job, they're deluded.

We're all doomed whatever happens.

Kent resident here. Operation Stack brings pretty much the entire country to a close on a regular basis; magnify that by whatever factor you choose, and Kent is going to be fucked (again).

And yet the likes of Russia, Italy and Korea did virtually nothing, and had very few problems. Funny that!

The answer is simple, those countries had very little s/w developed in house during the 60s and 70s that was still in use across vast swathes of their businesses and services as their economies were late in making wide use of computing.
They were far more likely to be using off-the shelf packages developed later on with Y2K in mind, or had the fixes applied by the package vendors. here's a list of some of them from 1999: www.cityu.edu.hk/csc/y2k/y2k_ref.html

All these people thinking that staying in the EU will solve all our problems - reality check - it really won't. Both Labour and Conservative will still be divided (as they have been for the last 30 years!). UKIP or another anti-EU party will start to get large proportions of votes/seats again in future elections, and the whole circus will happen again.

Half the country don't want to be in the EU - that's why the parties have been divided for years, it's why UKIP gained popularity. That has to be dealt with somehow otherwise it's just kicking the can into the long grass. In another 5 or 10 or 15 years, the anti-EU factions will get power again and we'll have another Brexit scenario.

It won't go away - it needs dealing with. If we are to stay in the EU, then we need changes to make it more palatable to the anti-EU half of the population. Just cancelling Brexit and staying in the EU won't solve anything.

And people do protest Poisonous, its just that people like you then start going on about them not having jobs to go to, or being 'marxists' for taking an interest.

Time for tories to split, brexit to stop and labour to step in.

www.sciencealert.com/swearing-is-a-sign-of-more-intelligence-not-less-say-scientists about that scary bad language.