To think schools will close, rubbish will rot and bodies won't be buried

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‏Local authorities making emergency plans for March 29th onwards 2019 for Crash Out Brexit (Leaving without a deal)

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NEW: Extraordinary Kent County Council No Deal Brexit document detailing “Operation Fennel” next month to hold 10,000 HGVs “on a routine basis”

-administration GCSEs/SATS

• waste services “delayed and disrupted”
• “difficulties with transport of the deceased”

Looks like there's a serious possibility of 1000s of our kids having wasted years of education as GCSE and A level exams could be cancelled.

I've booked flights to Spain on the 29th March

If they make plans, they’re criticised, don’t make any plans they’re criticised

I travelled to and from Kent and France a great deal in 2015. Operation Stack was a massive problem then: I witnessed it. If there is no deal, the problems of 2015 will be massively magnified. I cannot stress to people just how chaotic life in Kent would become and how there would be serious knock on effects across the country.

Transport gridlock is a very real probability in the case of no deal.

Contingency plans are plans for something that probably won't happen but you can't afford to take that for granted because the consequences if it does happen are too serious. Schools being unable to open during exam season is one such contingency and it's entirely appropriate for Kent County Council to be planning for it.

I know teachers and children used to just go to the nearest school when there was heavy snow in London, because I've heard older teachers talking about it. These days, who's going to accept an unknown adult walking into a school and saying 'Hello, I'm A. N. Other, I'm a PE teacher from Unknown Academy in OppositeSideofLondon Borough and as I can't get there I'm happy to teach here for the day.' Just not going to happen on safeguarding grounds, and quite right too.

Ditto with children turning up at the nearest school. How would staff get their parents' contact details in case of an emergency? How do they know who should be picking the child up at the end of the day? What about medical records? Schools aren't a childminding facility.

And as others have pointed out, if staff and students can't get to a school on exam day, it's not much use going to another random school to sit the exams. The other school won't have the right papers.

@UhUhUhDennis - It's like the millennium bug believers all over again.

Yep same way everyone prepared for the millennium bug. And everyone hyped each other up about it and loads of people and companies made millions of pounds cashing in on all the hearsay. Then nothing happened.

You do realise that statements like this just make you look stupid and uninformed, don't you?

In France right now there are already lots of issues with suppliers not being able to deliver to shops. And the gilets jaunes situation is absolutely nothing as compared to a potential no deal Brexit.

Contingency plans are plans for something that probably won't happen but you can't afford to take that for granted because the consequences if it does happen are too serious.

Very ironic, this sounds like Brexit. If only there had been a contingency plan in place just in case leave won.

IceRebel

I see we don't have a weeping emoticon. It's laugh or cry for me. I can't believe we've got ourselves into this mess and I have no confidence in any political party to sort it out. We've made ourselves a laughing stock to the rest of the world, and for what?

*And yet the likes of Russia, Italy and Korea did virtually nothing, and had very few problems. Funny that!

The answer is simple, those countries had very little s/w developed in house during the 60s and 70s that was still in use across vast swathes of their businesses and services as their economies were late in making wide use of computing.
They were far more likely to be using off-the shelf packages developed later on with Y2K in mind, or had the fixes applied by the package vendors. here's a list of some of them from 1999: www.cityu.edu.hk/csc/y2k/y2k_ref.html*

Yep - exactly this. Plus the Russians implemented a temporary measure for much of their in house code (limited, as pointed out above) by changing the dates back to the 70s, so that nothing happenned on NY Eve, and they then quietly fixed the software properly like the UK/US had done over the next 10 years.

Anyway, irrelevant now, and nothing to do with Brexit. There is no comparison. Brexit is a shit show, Y2K wasn't.

Dear me. In one small area of England, pupils MAY have difficulty getting to exams which start around 6 weeks after Brexit, and we get headlines like this.
BREAKING NEWS: GCSEs and A Levels will NOT be cancelled because of Brexit.

Kent-based MN-etter here.

The council is just planning for a bigger version of 'Stack', that lasts months not weeks. It's true it really effects us, not just in Dover but the whole county as HGVs try to re-route to park anywhere they can. We literally grind to a halt on all major trunk roads.

So good for them for planning. It will be awful for a while whether we Brexit 'properly' or not, as the French (particularly the Calais port) love making a point about borders, even at the best of times.

We’ve made ourselves a laughing stock to the rest of the world, and for what?

When I am able to be optimistic, I imagine a future in which an aging, self-serving, corrupt political class of cronies has finally imploded, totally discredited in the eyes of its own electorate and the world.

Taking back control.

All good nothing to see here.

Dimwit leavers still can't admit they were wrong.

Unless they travel to school by HGV, I'm confused about how one thing impacts the other.

I'm from Kent, just off the M20. When operation stack is in place (and we've all known about operation stack for a couple of decades now) all local traffic is impacted - it's completely normal if you're in Ashford to hop on the motorway up one junction to get from one side to the other.

And don't forget it's countryside around there - plenty of kids don't walk to school, plenty of kids take a school bus, so if the roads are busy because a lane of the motorway is blocked by parked lorries, those kids (and teachers) are going to be delayed too.

Loving the leaver ignorance being exposed by locals and those who know about Y2K properly.

Don't you ever get tired of repeating soundbites? Or should we be searching usernames to see just how long ago many of the leave posters joined. Or are you just so spurred on by leave that it makes you spring into action on every thread going?

Come on @Micke and @wink1970 , you're spoiling it for all the Leavers onhere with your wretched on the ground facts. You didn't say where the unicorns are.

LOL Bellinisurge.

Well, I can tell you they're certainly not round the corner from my old house where the lorries used to park up (rather than pay for the lorry park) and sit on the fence to poop into the field behind......

We’ve made ourselves a laughing stock to the rest of the world, and for what?

We're not a laughing stock. No one cares.

We're not a laughing stock. No one cares.

Totally untrue. The government and the Foreign Office have polled in other countries and the results are horrifying. The British are no longer credible or trustworthy trading partners.

TM has been terribly short-sighted in not preparing a credible no-deal plan. It's made it very easy for Brussels to treat her as they have.

In France right now there are already lots of issues with suppliers not being able to deliver to shops. And the gilets jaunes situation is absolutely nothing as compared to a potential no deal Brexit.

Correct, but Macron is just so wonderful and right-on, isn't he?

What has Macron got to do with it in the UK?

Correct, but Macron is just so wonderful and right-on, isn't he?

There are many possible adjectives to describe Macron but no one, of any political persuasion or social segment, could possible qualify him as right on. He’s about as far away from right on as Father Christmas.

Fascinating to read the Russians' solution to the millennium bug. They also proposed using a pencil in space when the US spent huge amounts of money on developing a pen that would work in zero gravity.

Those of you who want Corbyn to get in, please come and see his constituency with your own eyes. He's had 30 years to do something about it. I suggest you start with the Seven Sisters Road and see if you still hold the same opinion. I am not questioning his views here -- just his ability to do anything in practice. (Funny how his own children and those of senior party members all get sent to grammars or private schools...)

The British are no longer credible or trustworthy trading partners

Considering the huge amount of imports we buy from EU countries (far greater than our exports to them), the EU firms aren't going to stop selling to us - if there are problems with trade, they'll be heavily lobbying their own governments and the EU to sort something out pretty damn quickly. Just look at how many BWM are imported - they aren't going to just say "sod you" and not try to sell into the UK anymore are they? There'll be a lot of pressure from all parties to sort things out, whatever form of Brexit we end up with.