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To think schools will close, rubbish will rot and bodies won't be buried

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bananacake2134 · 06/12/2018 22:42

‏Local authorities making emergency plans for March 29th onwards 2019 for Crash Out Brexit (Leaving without a deal)

@faisalislam
NEW: Extraordinary Kent County Council No Deal Brexit document detailing “Operation Fennel” next month to hold 10,000 HGVs “on a routine basis”

-administration GCSEs/SATS

  • waste services “delayed and disrupted”
  • “difficulties with transport of the deceased”

Looks like there's a serious possibility of 1000s of our kids having wasted years of education as GCSE and A level exams could be cancelled.

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SergeantPfeffer · 07/12/2018 07:29

Teachers often avoid living close to the schools they teach in (you don’t want to see your pupils down the pub!). Pupils might well be able to get in, but the teachers won’t.

dippledorus · 07/12/2018 07:31

“Could be” equals

As the Spartans said to the Greeks.

if

Ffs what a load of shite.

brizzledrizzle · 07/12/2018 07:34

Teachers often avoid living close to the schools they teach in (you don’t want to see your pupils down the pub!). Pupils might well be able to get in, but the teachers won’t.

They could go to their local school; that's what always used to happen when there was bad snow. Some areas still do that as long as the staff can prove who they are with their work ID card.

Obviously it's not without complications but it's worth considering if Kent Council are really that concerned rather than the media scaremongering.

LEMtheoriginal · 07/12/2018 07:34

Brizzle - my dd's school is 9 miles away so she wont be trAvelling by bike. We wont be affected as she is in year 9 and we dont use the roads in that direction however some do.

Gaspodethetalkingdog · 07/12/2018 07:38

Things will carry on as before, the U.K. can stop paying billions of £ to the nasty EU and spend it on locals. People all over the EU are not happy with the way it is being run, but the elites who run it won’t listen

LittleAlbatross · 07/12/2018 07:42

OMG you leavers are STILL doing the millennium bug comparison? Honestly how fucking thick do you have to be?

There were thousands of software engineers working for years before 2000 to address the bug issue. Thousands of experts collaborated to get a solution.

The result was that other than a few minor glitches nothing terrible happened. It wasn't hyped up as some of the morons here seem to believe. It was a problem that a lot of people worked very hard to resolve before it could become a major issue.

The government has had two years and done fuck all planning for no deal.

The two are not comparable AT ALL.

Honestly this is why so many people think leave voters are thick.

SergeantPfeffer · 07/12/2018 07:42

By local, do you mean the civil service? Because all of that money will go on paying for the massive administrative and bureaucratic costs that come with replacing the shared EU systems and 40 years worth of shared regulations.
If you think brexit will make “the locals” better off then you’re in cloud cuckoo land.

Childrenofthesun · 07/12/2018 07:43

Things will carry on as before

No they won't. Even the biggest supporters of No Deal understand that.

soggysaladdays · 07/12/2018 07:43

There is absolutely no comparison between the Y2K bug and a no deal Brexit. I was a computer programmer in a major high street bank in 1999 so I know first hand the planning and work that was involved to update hundreds of programs and to test and implement them prior to Y2K. When people call that 'project fear' and say it never happened that is rubbish, it didn't happen because of the work that was carried out to prevent it by hundreds of people in the IT industry. I don't see the same planning and work going into preventing the chaos that will be by caused by a no deal Brexit.

LakieLady · 07/12/2018 07:44

Unless they travel to school by HGV, I'm confused about how one thing impacts the other.

Well, they're not going to pop all those HGVs into multi-storey car parks, are they?

I live a few miles from a much, much smaller channel port with a tiny fraction of the traffic that Dover takes. An RTC that closes one of the 2 routes that take traffic south to the port quickly leads to gridlock on the roads within about a 10 mile radius, as ferry traffic (and other traffic) goes through tiny villages and small towns seeking an alternative route.

I think KCC is absolutely right to be considering contingencies in the event of this happening and that they'd be a bit reckless if they didn't.

I hope our county council is doing the same, in case drivers fancy avoiding the issue at Dover by using another port, which could well lead to problems here, and conceivably at other ports all along the channel.

Mind you, my lot can't even manage to get the roads gritted, so not much likelihood of them coping with a county logjammed with lorries.

DP and I were discussing this the other day and his response was typically phlegmatic: we'd go everywhere on his motorbike, apparently.

Childrenofthesun · 07/12/2018 07:45

They could go to their local school;

No way in this day and age of health and safety/security will loads of kids be able to turn up and be accommodated at a school that they don't attend.

They wouldn't be able to take their exams there anyway as schools order in the correct number of examination papers for their pupils.

topcat2014 · 07/12/2018 07:48

Brexit is the new health & safety.

I am hoping my council has spent four fifths of f.all preparing, as it surely should have no impact on bins and street cleaning.

Mind you, my council lost shitloads investing in bank of iceland, so I wouldn't put it past them.

Ifailed · 07/12/2018 07:50

last time operation stack was implemented in 2015 it had a huge impact to transport www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-33688822,
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11774524/Calais-migrant-crisis-Kent-Police-send-for-reinforcements.html travelling to and from France, and also in Kent.
Closing the M20 diverts a lot of traffic onto smaller roads that can't cope with the volumes & the already over-stretched police managing the HGVs do not have the offices to keep traffic moving elsewhere.
There is no doubt that a similar issue getting HGVs in and out of the UK will have a significant impact on the lives of people who live near the M20 and need to travel for work, school, health-care etc.

RancidOldHag · 07/12/2018 07:51

If you're in your 50s or older, then you've lived through all that before - during the strikes of the 1979s, so it holds no terrors whatsoever.

And at least this time there will will time to plan - when it was strikes they just happened without warning - especially secondary action.

KnockMeDown · 07/12/2018 07:54

All this scaremongering reminds me of the run up to year 2000. What happened then? Nowt.

keely71 · 07/12/2018 07:59

Why don’t remainers just start these threads with a picture of the grim reaper and be done with it.
All this scaremongering is getting tedious now.

sashh · 07/12/2018 07:59

move on nothing to see here just another desperate reMOANer. It's like the millennium bug believers all over again.

I had a relative working in the computing department of a big bank, in 1999 all leave was cancelled and huge amounts were paid to people who would work over the new year.

A lot of people worked really hard to stop the bug happening, and they KNEW what the problems were.

Knittink · 07/12/2018 08:00

Some areas still do that as long as the staff can prove who they are with their work ID card.

They would never allow that now, with the level of safeguarding in schools.

Childrenofthesun · 07/12/2018 08:08

Wow, I had no idea people were still so ill-informed about the effects of no-deal Brexit. All the people who think nothing bad will happen are bound to be the first ones complaining of we do exit with no deal and they have no idea what to expect. Luckily, I think they won't need to find out, but even a soft Brexit will have economic impacts on all of us.

Must be a big patch of sand to fit all those buried heads in it.

BlueJava · 07/12/2018 08:09

It'll be another "year 2k bug" case - where everyone thinks the world will end, planes crash out the sky and food will stop arriving in shops. In reality we'll blink and miss it.

Deadbudgie · 07/12/2018 08:11

Business as usual in a certain very large labour run council in the Midlands then!

Theoryofmould · 07/12/2018 08:12

If it wasn't so fucking serious I'd spend my days laughing till I dropped at the ridiculous shit that comes out of Brexiteer's mouths. Honest to god do you seriously think that we're suddenly all going to have better services because we've left the EU? It's codswallop like that that makes my blood pressure rise.

SoupDragon · 07/12/2018 08:14

It'll be another "year 2k bug" case - where everyone thinks the world will end, planes crash out the sky and food will stop arriving in shops. In reality we'll blink and miss it.

Clearly you were involved in sorting out all the potential problems with the Y2K bug or with anyone who was. 🙄

SoupDragon · 07/12/2018 08:14

Weren't involved. FFS

OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/12/2018 08:15

Kent are in a peculiarly bad position in terms of transport if we crash out without a deal. Parts of it really really struggle already when things go wrong at the port. That will be magnified hugely. I would not want to live anywhere near the routes to the port if it goes tits up.

But, in case you've not seen this, the government are still preparing for the potential for severe shortages of medication, in case of no deal and the ports get stuffed.

from the Times (behind a paywall, but you can get two free articles a week) "Ministers will order them to alter prescriptions without first contacting the patient’s GP in order to mitigate any extreme shortages, according to a leaked document." from www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ministers-will-order-pharmacists-to-ration-drugs-if-uk-crashes-out-kxd00jv9j