To take Dd to Hospital

[Wallywobbles]

So Dd12 had a sore tummy yesterday. It's a band across her stomach from under her tummy button to the top of her thighs.

Last night she did 5 poos and vomited multiple times in the night.

This evening the pain is worse. 9.5/10. Pain killers are making no difference. Spasfon no difference either. She has a temp of 38.7. No vomit and no poo. She feels like she needs to poo. She hasn't eaten all day.

I've rung the French equivalent of 101. They said wait to see Dr. appointment at 11.45 tomorrow.

Tonight is the big student night so hospitals will be full later.

Do I go or not?

Sorry to hear about your dd.

My ds has similar (without the abscess) when he was about 6. He’d been playing football that morning and complained of a stitch so we told him to have a little rest. The pain got worse and he went all pale and clammy. As it was a weekend, I took him to the hospital (ooh). They did the tests and performed emergency surgery on him that night. He was sore and didn’t move around much for the first day but the recovery was incredibly fast. One of the doctors told him that he’d be able to go into space, which made his day! He’s also happy about the fact that he won’t get appendicitis again!

Hope your dd has a smooth recovery x

Hope your Dd is on the mend soon.

Take good care of yourself too

I've had peritonitis twice. It really is agonising. I'm assuming she has a big cut too now. I needed seven hour emergency ops both times and have a 30cm scar. ICU and HDU were amazing.

Just sending get well wishes to your DD, so glad you took her back in hope you all manage to get some rest soon

Massive ((((((((Soft Hugs)))))))) 🐨🌸🌼🌺

Thank goodness they’ve got to the cause. Hope she recovers quickly and that you get some rest too, OP.

(((hugs))) to you and dd. I hope she recovers quickly.

Gosh thank you all for your thoughts.

She has a drain through her nose draining her stomach, another drain her abdomen and one in her urethra for her bladder. Poor thing is normally so prudish it must be torture. She hates being touched and bodily autonomy is part of who she is.

Feverish at one point in the night but feels cool now.

I think because of the diarrhea they got fixated on food poisoning but she's taken lactulose because she felt constipated.

She also seems to be asleep.

Gosh thank you all for your thoughts.

She has a drain through her nose draining her stomach, another drain her abdomen and one in her urethra for her bladder. Poor thing is normally so prudish it must be torture. She hates being touched and bodily autonomy is part of who she is.

She has 4 holes in her stomach so less awful then it might be. And they managed to do it all in an hour.

Feverish at one point in the night but feels cool now.

I think because of the diarrhea they got fixated on gastro but she'd taken lactulose because she felt constipated.

She finds the throat and nose drain seriously sore.

It’s alwats best to go with your instinct. I remember telling dh that I thought dc had appendicitis & he told me not to be ridiculous- well he was wrong & I was right. I remind him now & again frequently

wish her a speedy recovery, the pain will go soon. She’s a trooper.

Poor dd and poor you too!
Glad they’ve operated though...

Your poor dd, wishing her a speedy recovery

I am so glad you posted her medical notes on here. It doesn't bear thinking about what would have happened if the medical people on here didn't see and express alarm at her crp level. Well done on your supermum instincts

I would seriously be considering suing the hospital for letting her go home with CRP that high!

Oh God, OP, your update is terrifying. Your poor dd. Those doctors who sent her home should be ashamed.

Sending her best wishes for a speedy recovery. Big hugs to you too.

"LondonLassInTheNorthPole

I would seriously be considering suing the hospital for letting her go home with CRP that high!"

Don't be daft.

Why daft?

They send a child home when they shouldnt of and if the mum hadnt took her back to the hospital, she would of died.

What is daft about that

I understand that appendicitis can be hard to spot because it can present in so many different ways, and is not always visible in scans (because of variations in anatomy). They missed it in DD until very late, because she is too stoical for her own good and it wasn't visible on the scan. Her op was the same as you DDs. The surgeon described it as "a pelvis full of pus" which was delightful!

She did get an abscess, which extended her hospital stay, but as I said upthread, she recovered completely. Only one of her scars is at all visible now (10 months later).

You can't sue because someone was sent home with a high blood test result of a non-specific blood test. CRP is a non-specific blood test. It is raised when inflammation or infection is present, but the levels don't correlate neatly with particular levels of illness (there are general boundaries of suspicion) and a raised CRP can't tell you what is wrong, even when it tells you that something is wrong.

Also, to sue, you have to show that there is a loss, that damage was caused. The OP's DD was just as ill when she first came to hospital as when she returned, and she got the treatment she needed when she returned. It isn't ideal that she went home, but we weren't there. It's quite possible that a room of 100 reasonable Doctors would have made the same decision, given the same facts. It's really easy to be armchair Doctors. Not so easy if you have a live person in front of you. They looked at her and felt that she had gastroenteritis. They changed their minds when she returned, and acted accordingly.

💐🌼🌺🌹🌸 poor little girl. Hope she feels better soon.

With a CRP at that level they should of scanned her the first time.

Not let her go home.

There was doctors and nurses on here saying that she never should of been sent home.

So i would want some answers.
The child declined once home and is now possibly more poorly than she would of been hours before if she had a scan the first time round, although obviously hard to prove

I don't disagree that she shouldn't have been sent home. I was one of the ones saying that I was surprised she was allowed home and that the OP should go back at the earliest moment if she felt it necessary. But that's a far cry from being able to sue.

I doubt any of us are experts in French medical law. In UK medical negligence claims there have to be 3 things:
a duty of care to the patient
a failure in that duty of care
that failure to have caused harm

The 3rd would be the hard one to prove, if she was taken back mainly for not getting better, rather than for having got significantly worse.

No idea if French law is the same.

It is rather difficult to bring a medical negligence claim unde rFrench law and even if successful, damages awarded are very low.