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AIBU to ask for advice on ending brother’s visit?

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mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 13:33

My older brother and I were virtually estranged for many years after a major misunderstanding. He lives 500 miles away so we didn’t run into each other which may have sorted things out earlier. Recently, in the past three years, we have attempted to have a better relationship, initiated mainly by me.

Three months ago, he said casually on the phone ( I phoned him) that he and his wife would be touring in my home area after he had finished a project in which was involved. I replied that they must come to stay with us, thinking that they would come for a weekend/ long weekend. Since then, I waited for him to call me back and let me know what he was planning. On Friday at five pm he called and said they’d be with us in three hours but could stay in a hotel if that was a problem. I politely covered my horror and surprise, assured him that he was welcome, and rushed off to get house ready with help of my husband.

They arrived with an enormous amount of luggage which first made me wonder about what their plans were. We had a very nice weekend, with them paying for dinner one night and us paying the next . I also cooked the first night.

On the Sunday DH asked me , quite understandably, how long they would be staying so I raised the question in as polite a manner as I could. My brother breezily replied that he was in no hurry to return home since nothing needed to be done at home. I’m afraid I was incapable of speech and, I think, simply smiled and nodded in a very cowardly way. His wife, who is lovely, was very apologetic and said that he must let us know their plans. His reply was that there was no rush to go anywhere. They have now been here for five days with no end in sight.

My DH likes visitors for two nights maximum and has then had enough of people for a while , which is how I feel as well, really.

How can I raise the subject again politely? What advice can wise readers give on dealing with this , without potentially causing another estrangement? Thank you.

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Finfintytint · 27/11/2018 13:36

"It's been lovely to see you but it is time to go" should do it.

MaintainTheMolehill · 27/11/2018 13:37

I would take the cowards way out and lie. Don't know if it's now too late but when you asked him how long he was saying you should have said you just needed to know as you have friends coming to stay for a long standing prearranged visit.

This is my idea of hell no matter who the visitors are.

TheBaltictriangle · 27/11/2018 13:40

Just say that you are expecting your in laws to stay the following weekend. You weren't expecting them to come so unexpectedly and this was a pre-arranged visit.

HomeMadeMadness · 27/11/2018 13:42

I'm a wimp so I would say that just to let you know we're expecting another guest to stay at the Weekend so won't be able to host any longer.

Nanalisa60 · 27/11/2018 13:43

Just ask him when he thinks he will be leaving? I would get my husband to do the asking!! (I know I’m a coward)

mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 13:53

Yes, I don’t see any way out except to lie, inventing a visitor.

I thought a work colleague of my husband (up from London, just to add background detail) would perhaps be the safest option . I don’t like lying to people but I suppose it’s better (and kinder) than telling him we’ve had enough. And my husband wants his favourite chair back so that’s it, really.

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CantWaitToRetire · 27/11/2018 13:53

As per previous posts - say how lovely it has been having them with you and you hadn't wanted to raise it earlier but as they appear to have no onward plans you have to let them know of a long standing invitation in place for some friends/ILs to stay and you need to prepare the house for their arrival. It would be a shame if those plans fell through very last minute after your DB and SIL had gone, but oh well.....

justilou1 · 27/11/2018 13:57

The old "You know Visitors are like fish thing - they go off after three days thing is completely true".... off you fuck.

Thehop · 27/11/2018 14:01

It’s been lovely to see you, would you like any laundry doing before you go?

SaucyJack · 27/11/2018 14:04

“It’s been lovely to have you. Are you travelling back tomorrow or the day after?. Let me know which one as we’ve got plans for Friday with Bob and Mel from Dave’s work.”

mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 14:11

An added problem , which I should have mentioned, is that DB Is very thick-skinned and keen on being “spontaneous “ dropping in “ without notice on anyone and everyone. He once “dropped in “ on a second cousin and stayed for almost four weeks.

Thank you for your lovely suggestion about doing laundry before his imminent departure but it would be water off a duck’s back, unfortunately.

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SaucyJack · 27/11/2018 14:12

You might have to up the ante a bit then.

Can you hide the guest bed under your bed next time they go out?

Jaxhog · 27/11/2018 14:20

Lie, and tell them you have friends coming to stay on thursday. So you'll need some time tomorrow to air the room, change sheets etc. Apologise for not mentioning it before, but it hadn't occured to you that your brother would want to stay beyond the weekend.

Don't get drawn into a discussion, just tell him.

starsorwater · 27/11/2018 14:22

Say, 'I'm not charging a penny. It's been so great to see you. Sorry we've kept you from your own affairs so long. Just counted up, and realised we've held you back FIVE days! Shall I strip the bed, or would you rather do it yourself? '

onlyk · 27/11/2018 14:26

Could you ask your brother’s wife?

Seems like DB has form for relying on/taking advantage of people’s politeness or wish to avoid “embarrassment”.

I’d probably just asked directly along the lines of it’s been great seeing you but when will you be leaving. If you don’t get a definite answer just be clear the latest they can stay is x as you have plans. You don’t need to say what those plans are as it’s not his business.

mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 14:26

I love the suggestion of hiding the guest bed! Too big , unfortunately.

I was fantasising last night about selling our house and buying a one bedroom place to avoid future awkward situations . Bit extreme, I realised, in the cold light of day.

I may announce instead that our guest room is now my “studio” suggesting all sorts of glamorous and creative activities going on in there in future. I could just keep the unironed ironing pile in there instead.

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chocatoo · 27/11/2018 14:29

A white lie is needed. Just say that you have other visitors coming to stay at the weekend. We have so loved seeing you, let’s arrange before you go when we might come to you next time....

mummmy2017 · 27/11/2018 14:32

Tell him the truth well you have lived seeing him, you did not realise he was intending to stay so long.
And while you don't mind him staying another day or so. If he intends to stay longer then you think a hotel will be best for everyone.

eddielizzard · 27/11/2018 14:34

How awkward. But I'm guessing that your brother banks on the fact that you find it awkward and won't kick him out. He doesn't find it awkward at all. I'd mention that you have someone coming on Friday, so it's best if they leave tomorrow. If they ask why, say you need down time before the new guests arrive. Be firm.

"Hey it was lovely seeing you, but you'll need to head home tomorrow. Let's have a lovely last night together. Takeaway?"

Couchpotato3 · 27/11/2018 14:34

If DB is that thick-skinned, then he isn't going to take any hints about clearing off. You need to be up-front and assertive. "Its been lovely to see you, but I'm afraid we can't host you any longer." No need for any further explanation. "We're not comfortable having house guests for more than a weekend and you have already stayed x days" if pushed.

Claw001 · 27/11/2018 14:38

How about planning a FAREWELL meal?

It’s been lovely, one last thing before you go type of meal.

mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 14:40

Onlyk: I have asked my brother’s wife and she is very embarrassed and apologetic about the fact that he didn’t let us know ( apart from three hours before) about their arrival and also that he won’t say when they are leaving.

Also, last night I prepared dinner for everyone, assuming they would return from a visit to cousins in time to eat. No answer on phone and no message. DH was working a long day, was hungry and tired, so we just ate without them. They eventually turned up, saying they’d eaten at cousins. Actually, the more I type, the more annoyed I become !

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UnWilly · 27/11/2018 14:45

Introduce your SiL to MN Wink

FawnDrench · 27/11/2018 14:46

I'm sorry but I think they are being disingenuous and taking the piss op.
You don't have to put up with this.

Time to take some decisive and positive action and get them to leave - good luck!

user1andonly · 27/11/2018 14:49

I would want to be really blunt with him (and his wife - she's no better) tbh. This is bizarre behaviour - surely they must know that?!

Whether I'd have the confidence to just say "well, it's been lovely having you but it's time you were gone now" I don't know as I don't know anyone who would behave like this so it's hard to put myself in your shoes! What do you think he would say if you did?

Never let him invite himself again without a definite end date!