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AIBU to ask for advice on ending brother’s visit?

148 replies

mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 13:33

My older brother and I were virtually estranged for many years after a major misunderstanding. He lives 500 miles away so we didn’t run into each other which may have sorted things out earlier. Recently, in the past three years, we have attempted to have a better relationship, initiated mainly by me.

Three months ago, he said casually on the phone ( I phoned him) that he and his wife would be touring in my home area after he had finished a project in which was involved. I replied that they must come to stay with us, thinking that they would come for a weekend/ long weekend. Since then, I waited for him to call me back and let me know what he was planning. On Friday at five pm he called and said they’d be with us in three hours but could stay in a hotel if that was a problem. I politely covered my horror and surprise, assured him that he was welcome, and rushed off to get house ready with help of my husband.

They arrived with an enormous amount of luggage which first made me wonder about what their plans were. We had a very nice weekend, with them paying for dinner one night and us paying the next . I also cooked the first night.

On the Sunday DH asked me , quite understandably, how long they would be staying so I raised the question in as polite a manner as I could. My brother breezily replied that he was in no hurry to return home since nothing needed to be done at home. I’m afraid I was incapable of speech and, I think, simply smiled and nodded in a very cowardly way. His wife, who is lovely, was very apologetic and said that he must let us know their plans. His reply was that there was no rush to go anywhere. They have now been here for five days with no end in sight.

My DH likes visitors for two nights maximum and has then had enough of people for a while , which is how I feel as well, really.

How can I raise the subject again politely? What advice can wise readers give on dealing with this , without potentially causing another estrangement? Thank you.

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DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 27/11/2018 15:34

Just to add some cheer to the thread, my CFSIL and her kids did this to Mr Dribble. She was there for nearly a year and only left when MrDribble let her move into a house he'd inherited. She wouldn't move out or pay rent so he ended up giving her the fucking house and now I'm stuck with her living 2 doors away from me forever. BTW she was asked to leave many many times, but she refused. She also made terminally ill MIL babysit for her 3 kids, and then charged MIL for taking her to the shop (in MrDribble's car!).

This was years before I'd met MrD, of course. It could never happen now. Sometimes it's hard to be rude to a sibling, but an in-law is much easier. I'd suggest your husband being very, very blunt.

Or (I'm sure I read this in some old novel where there was a perpetual guest going round all the country houses to save on their own costs)is there the possibility that you could get someone else to invite them to stay?

theworldistoosmall · 27/11/2018 15:35

I know family relations aren't black and white. I annoyed one years ago because I don't tolerate cf's and if this offends them well that's their issue. As a result, I have a peaceful life away from the family. Wish I had done it before.

hellsbellsmelons · 27/11/2018 15:35

You just need to tell him it's time to leave.
You need to sort that room out for the next visitor who is due to arrive late on Thursday and you need to do washing of bedding etc tomorrow so they will need to be gone by then.
I really hope you can get him to leave.
He sounds like a total knob, to be frank.
Sorry!

NoSquirrels · 27/11/2018 15:37

Just say - “It’s been absolutely lovely to see you, dear bro. When exactly are you leaving? - tomorrow would work well for us. If you’re planning to be in the area longer I can give you the hotel number.”

INeedNewShoes · 27/11/2018 15:38

I think you just need to say simply that you've really enjoyed their visit but unfortunately you can't offer to host them after tomorrow. Don't invent a reason like hosting a dinner because they may well say 'oh that's fine, we'll stay with cousin X on Thursday night if you're busy and come back to you on Friday'!

RangeRider · 27/11/2018 15:39

You realise that if the op says they are going away cf will still stay in the pretence of looking after the place.
This ^^ I now have visions of OP & DH having to camp out in a hotel because they can't go home Grin

HollowTalk · 27/11/2018 15:40

Are you both out of work all day and they're in your house?

ShePoopsAConker · 27/11/2018 15:47

God OP this is awful, what on Earth is wrong with him? He didn't give you any notice or a clear plan, now he's not leaving! WTF! I'd be going insane, I HATE this kind of thing.

I would say something like: "This is a bit awkward but you didn't really give me any notice and I wasn't expecting you to come for a long stay. We can't host you any longer after tonight." No excuses, no explanations - then he can argue or come up with a "solution". If he asks why, say "Because we need our home to ourselves now."

It is awkward and embarrassing and you don't want to cause offence, but he's caused this situation, not you. If they feel awkward, so they should. Just tell them.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 27/11/2018 15:51

Grab the bull by the horns OP - the very next time you and your brother are in the same room say "Well, it's been lovely seeing you this time even with the very short notice of your impending arrival. You must let us know in more time when you're planning on coming the next time and not just three hours before you show up. Also, when are you leaving? We have other friends due to stay with us at the weekend and we'd like to have a day or two to prepare for their visit. If you're planning on staying in the area for a little while longer, we can recommend the X hotel as it's very comfortable and not at all expensive to stay in or the Y hotel which is quite luxurious."

Don't let him stay longer than you want him to. Keep us posted OP.

dustarr73 · 27/11/2018 15:54

When are they going out next.Just pack their bags and leave them outside the front door.You didnt give them a key,did you?

Staringcoat · 27/11/2018 15:56

It's interesting that you feel comfortable approaching your sil about this op and not your db? Is he a bit of a bully? Sympathies if so because I have the same issue with my family member who thinks of themselves as very sensitive and rounded when they are the opposite (and it's not just me who finds them difficult). It's really hard Flowers

Fair enough theworldistoosmall . I personally hate confrontation and find it really difficult. Things would be much easier if I could be more confident about it.

Snowwontbelong · 27/11/2018 15:56

Aren't the other members of your swingers club due tomo?
Or my favourite mn phrase :
Off you pop cunty chops!!

EspressoButler · 27/11/2018 15:58

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LostwithSawyer · 27/11/2018 16:03

Over dinner tonight "so brother and SIL i hope you have enjoyed your holiday. What time are you leaving tomorrow?"

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 27/11/2018 16:04

He’ll be spending Christmas with you OP, if you don’t grow a pair.

RangeRider · 27/11/2018 16:08

He’ll be spending Christmas with you OP, if you don’t grow a pair.
Which year?! Grin

paintinmyhairAgain · 27/11/2018 16:08

when 'd'b and his wife go out somewhere is it possible to move house / emigrate ? my mum wanted stay to for a couple of days so she help me out, she was still with me three weeks later ! it was a wonder i didn't decamp back to her place with my dc in tow !why doesn't his wife say something to him or do you think she'd rather not go against his wishes ? your db seems to think you've adopted him ! look at all the money they are saving in heating and food bills, will you adopt me too ? i'm fully house trained Grin

paintinmyhairAgain · 27/11/2018 16:13

expresso wow ! still it got the job done on both accounts Smile. op i don't want to worry you but if you leave it too long you might find db will acquire squatting rights Grin sorry, just teasing. but i really do feel for you.

Nousernameforme · 27/11/2018 16:14

Develop your own thick skin. Say its been lovely having them do they want you to pack a lunch for their journey home tomorrow. When he says he isn't going tomorrow laugh and say don't be silly you've been here 2 days longer than I was expecting and I have stuff to do.
Whats the worst that could happen? He doesn't come back not sounding like a great loss tbh

Jux · 27/11/2018 16:15

Stop cooking for them. Tell them it's their turn to cook tomorrow night for all of you and what time will you be eating? Then tell them that on Monday you have dh's colleague arriving from London "for a while, some work related thing/course, don't know how long he's here for.....maybe a fortnight?".

Or just say that it's been lovely to see them, but you will be needing the room back on Friday or something, give them a list of nice-ish hotels locally and suggest meeting in a pub for lunch on Sunday.

BonnieandHyde · 27/11/2018 16:17

Anyone else suspecting OPs brother is actually a couch jumper? 4 weeks at someone else's home? 🤨 more likely they're homeless OP and just enjoy surfing other people's coat tails.

gamerchick · 27/11/2018 16:19

Yep get ready for your Christmas guests OP.

mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 16:26

You are all absolutely correct. And why didn’t I ask how long he’d be staying? Because I was so taken aback that they were coming at all and in only three hours time. His wife genuinely doesn’t know because he hasn’t told her. He makes all the decisions.

I think he will be huffy when I tell him we need our guest room but MN posters are now making me wonder whether I should care.

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llangennith · 27/11/2018 16:28

My DS is like your DB. Used to drop in unannounced to stay with me or either of his sisters. I didn't mind so much but I had to tell him firmly that he has to let people know if he wants to stay at theirs and that he has to let them know for how long. Giving them the opportunity to say 'no' or 'you can stay for two nights'.
In the summer term he asked if I could have DGS 7yo for half term. He brought DGS down on the Sunday and kept putting off going home. He ended up staying the whole week. DIL was delighted to offload her DH and DS for half term!

Zucker · 27/11/2018 16:30

I'd love to know why you both fell out in the first place. They sound like a pair of cheeky fuckers! Do something soon OP or you will have them for Christmas.