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AIBU to ask for advice on ending brother’s visit?

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mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 13:33

My older brother and I were virtually estranged for many years after a major misunderstanding. He lives 500 miles away so we didn’t run into each other which may have sorted things out earlier. Recently, in the past three years, we have attempted to have a better relationship, initiated mainly by me.

Three months ago, he said casually on the phone ( I phoned him) that he and his wife would be touring in my home area after he had finished a project in which was involved. I replied that they must come to stay with us, thinking that they would come for a weekend/ long weekend. Since then, I waited for him to call me back and let me know what he was planning. On Friday at five pm he called and said they’d be with us in three hours but could stay in a hotel if that was a problem. I politely covered my horror and surprise, assured him that he was welcome, and rushed off to get house ready with help of my husband.

They arrived with an enormous amount of luggage which first made me wonder about what their plans were. We had a very nice weekend, with them paying for dinner one night and us paying the next . I also cooked the first night.

On the Sunday DH asked me , quite understandably, how long they would be staying so I raised the question in as polite a manner as I could. My brother breezily replied that he was in no hurry to return home since nothing needed to be done at home. I’m afraid I was incapable of speech and, I think, simply smiled and nodded in a very cowardly way. His wife, who is lovely, was very apologetic and said that he must let us know their plans. His reply was that there was no rush to go anywhere. They have now been here for five days with no end in sight.

My DH likes visitors for two nights maximum and has then had enough of people for a while , which is how I feel as well, really.

How can I raise the subject again politely? What advice can wise readers give on dealing with this , without potentially causing another estrangement? Thank you.

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Missingstreetlife · 27/11/2018 17:44

Just tell him, no reasonable person would Bec offended.

RedLife · 27/11/2018 17:44

I feel your pain I hate over night guests!

dontalltalkatonce · 27/11/2018 17:45

FFS. Just tell them they need to move on. 'We have other plans. It's been nice having you, but you need to leave by Thursday.' And if he doesn't, you usher them out. 'We need the space back.' So what if he gets huffy?

bimbobaggins · 27/11/2018 17:46

I don’t understand why you are pussyfooting around this. You’ve been given great advice on here. I don’t see the need to invent colleagues etc.
Just tell them it’s time to go.

bringbackthestripes · 27/11/2018 17:48

The problem with inventing another guest is what on Earth will you do if he then decides to stay and meet this guest and drive back late at night to miss traffic?

How on earth did Second cousin finally get rid of him after 4 weeks? Was he with his wife then? Who on earth thinks they are welcome as a house guest for 4 weeks!
You may as well order a bigger turkey, Christmas Day is 4 weeks away Shock

Ragh · 27/11/2018 17:53

What's the worst that will happen if you tell him to leave tomorrow? He'll be annoyed and not come back? What a shame that would be....

Drogosnextwife · 27/11/2018 18:05

Is your brothers wife not allowed to make any suggestions? It seems like everyone pussy foot around him, why is that?
He stayed at a distant relatives house for nearly 4 weeks? I'm sorry a just can't believe that anyone would put up with that, is everyone terrified to say anything to him incase he flies off the handle? It seems very odd.

Drogosnextwife · 27/11/2018 18:07

It gets worse, his wife was never allowed to work! I'm sorry, what?

MumW · 27/11/2018 18:08
  • Can't your DH bring a D & V bug home from work? Bit of retching, lots of air freshener every time you go to the loo. Start saying you're feeling queesy and cough all over the place whilst preparing dinner
  • Or just be honest and say it's been lovely seeing you but can you move on please.
  • Stop entertaining them. Make drinks/food just for you.
  • Strip the beds whilst they are out and dump their suitcases on the drive
  • Engineer it so they repeatedly get locked out.
Number12 · 27/11/2018 18:14

Hey db Its been lovely seeing you however due to to the short notice of your arrival, I've had to re arrange quite a few things and im quite behind now. I didn't expect you to stay longer than a few days. Next time we should decide dates in advance. So I shall have go wave you off tomorrow, perhaps we could come and stay with you next time. Big smile, glass of wine...

He's your db if he can't take it then tough. You know his wife understands.

poglets · 27/11/2018 18:22

Your husband works from home. This is the reason to say 'your visit has been lovely but DH has to get back on with his work undisturbed. He has a big conference call on Thursday. Bye'. This can't be questioned.

theworldistoosmall · 27/11/2018 18:25

D&V doesn't work. They book into a hotel but don't tell you this. They call a few days later to see how you are doing, you know because they are concerned.
They lull you into a sense of security not knowing they are in a nearby hotel. You tell them much better thankyou for asking. You even mumble some shite apologising for cutting the visit short.
A bit later someone knocks on your door and yup the cfs are back.

Or worse. They insist they stay to look after you. Which of course we all know carry on catering for them whilst you keep going to the loo.

PanamaPattie · 27/11/2018 18:32

It's time for another "misunderstanding" so you don't have to put with this shit. OP, tell him and wife to leave. Now.

AliciaEleanor · 27/11/2018 18:39

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ProfessionallyUnoffended · 27/11/2018 18:53

Well? Have you had "The Conversation" yet?!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/11/2018 19:20

I have asked my brother’s wife and she is very embarrassed and apologetic about the fact that he didn’t let us know ( apart from three hours before) about their arrival and also that he won’t say when they are leaving

Are you sure they're not just playing good cop / bad cop? Surely if she was so embarrassed she'd put him right herself?

Anyway, good luck with the "impending guest" thing ... if he gets huffy then he'll just have to get huffy Hmm

onthenaughtystepagain · 27/11/2018 19:28

We have friends who do this, I've started now to give them a deadline, We have something on on Wednesday for a few days, even then they drag it out until the last minute, having a last coffee as we're sitting there ready to go where 'we need to go'. So annoying.

DeathyMcDeathStarFace · 27/11/2018 20:04

If you're going with the fake friends coming to stay do you have a couple of friends who would be willing to rock up to your front door with a suitcase in hand?

What area are you in? I'm sure there's a mnetter who will be willing to come and knock on your door, making comments like "So, is that spare bed ready for me for tonight?" and "Shall I order a takeaway to share for tea? It's the least I can do in exchange for you letting us stay for a few nights, saves us hotel money so we might as well spend it on you." and - turning to db and dw - "Oooo, don't tell me you have visitors, sorry, I didn't realise. Does this mean we don't have a bed for the night or are they not staying overnight?" etc. etc. all in a very loud, excited voice.

(We're in the SW if you need us to help!)

Or, just tell db you need your house back to yourselves and he and dsil need to leave tomorrow.

Oliversmumsarmy · 27/11/2018 20:11

Airbnb the spare room and say you have paying guests coming

PuppyMonkey · 27/11/2018 20:26

TBH, I’d also be worried that the work colleague thing might backfire and he’ll hang around or return after a couple of days.

Maybe you could just be vague and say: “Something’s come up and I’m afraid we’re going to have to ask you to leave tomorrow. Short notice, I know - mind you, you didn’t mind about the short notice you gave me for your impending arrival. Lol.”

mummmy2017 · 27/11/2018 20:27

Good luck.

Honeyroar · 27/11/2018 20:34

I like Number12's response. Be a little more direct and tough. He has no soft side to how he treats you...

I don't buy the wife being embarrassed either - not embarrassed enough to ask him and make him make a decision, or make one for him, and not enough to care about your feelings!

Tell them! Do you want this for the run up to Xmas?!

DunkandEggAgain · 27/11/2018 20:40

He's doing this deliberately because of the long time falling out, I bet you.

He likes controlling situations knowing full well it puts others out. 1953 sounds about right.

ShinyMe · 27/11/2018 20:53

I vote for every mumsnetter in your area all turning up together to turf him out.

WhoGivesADamnForAFlakeyBandit · 27/11/2018 21:09

I vote for every mumsnetter in your area all turning up together to turf him out

Let's start a rota Grin