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AIBU to ask for advice on ending brother’s visit?

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mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 13:33

My older brother and I were virtually estranged for many years after a major misunderstanding. He lives 500 miles away so we didn’t run into each other which may have sorted things out earlier. Recently, in the past three years, we have attempted to have a better relationship, initiated mainly by me.

Three months ago, he said casually on the phone ( I phoned him) that he and his wife would be touring in my home area after he had finished a project in which was involved. I replied that they must come to stay with us, thinking that they would come for a weekend/ long weekend. Since then, I waited for him to call me back and let me know what he was planning. On Friday at five pm he called and said they’d be with us in three hours but could stay in a hotel if that was a problem. I politely covered my horror and surprise, assured him that he was welcome, and rushed off to get house ready with help of my husband.

They arrived with an enormous amount of luggage which first made me wonder about what their plans were. We had a very nice weekend, with them paying for dinner one night and us paying the next . I also cooked the first night.

On the Sunday DH asked me , quite understandably, how long they would be staying so I raised the question in as polite a manner as I could. My brother breezily replied that he was in no hurry to return home since nothing needed to be done at home. I’m afraid I was incapable of speech and, I think, simply smiled and nodded in a very cowardly way. His wife, who is lovely, was very apologetic and said that he must let us know their plans. His reply was that there was no rush to go anywhere. They have now been here for five days with no end in sight.

My DH likes visitors for two nights maximum and has then had enough of people for a while , which is how I feel as well, really.

How can I raise the subject again politely? What advice can wise readers give on dealing with this , without potentially causing another estrangement? Thank you.

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timeisnotaline · 27/11/2018 16:45

No you don’t have to feel bad at all! He is being rude. What’s the worst that can happen, you don’t talk for another few years? And... I’d just make friendly with his wife and keep in contact with her if you want to stay in touch and he is snotty about it.

NoSquirrels · 27/11/2018 16:55

Don’t invent a guest.

Don’t say you need the room.

Don’t justify yourself.

Just say, it’s been lovely but now it’s time to pack up. Would you like the hotel number?

If he moans, just say, it’s been so lovely, but we really can’t host any longer.

If he asks why, just say, I’ve so enjoyed seeing you but it’s time for us to draw the visit to a close.

Just be implacable. He’s got form, and is a bit of an arse. So be stubborn yourself. Why DO you care if it causes a fall out?

ShePoopsAConker · 27/11/2018 16:56

Huffy!? God he sounds awful. If anyone should be huffy here it's you! If he is huffy I would lose my shit tbh!

How has he grown up not understanding that you don't impose on people like this? Especially after your relationship previously broke down, he should be being sensitive.

Miscible · 27/11/2018 17:00

I wouldn't care about him being huffy, OP. He and his wife have saved themselves the cost of five nights in a hotel plus numerous meals, you've done more than enough for him.

CrabbityRabbit · 27/11/2018 17:02

Let him huff. Why is it that those with rhinocerous hide when it comes to hints have skins like tissue paper when it comes to perceived slights?

StoneMe · 27/11/2018 17:05

Your SIL needs to grow a backbone.

theworldistoosmall · 27/11/2018 17:05

Huffy?
And let him get on with it. He gets away with this because you all tiptoe around him.
He knows what he is doing and he knows he can get away with it because no-one will say a damn thing.
Tell him tonight he is going tomorrow, not at the weekend like others have suggested. If he doesn't like it well he can fuck off tonight into a hotel. So it's not like he doesn't have options.
He as a guest does NOT get to decide when he leaves.

Staringcoat · 27/11/2018 17:07

Why is it that those with rhinocerous hide when it comes to hints have skins like tissue paper when it comes to perceived slights

^ This X 1000! That is so true!

OneStepMoreFun · 27/11/2018 17:08

Just tell him that it's been lovely seeing him but you will need the room back by the weekend, and that Thursday night is the last night that you can have them staying over. No need to explain beyond that. If he can spontaneously drop in for days on end, he has to tolerate being spontaneously told to sling his hook.

mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 17:08

My husband usually works from home a great deal but has had to leave the house early for the day yesterday and today in order to preserve his sanity. I too have suddenly remembered meetings and appointments which mean I have had to be out for most of the day and unable to accompany them.

My husband is going to raise the topic tonight of his work colleague arriving on Thursday . Arranged ages ago, apparently.

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OneStepMoreFun · 27/11/2018 17:11

I'd also massively reduce comfort levels. Cook very boring, easy food or tell them you are out for dinner tomorrow and can they make their own arrangements. Turn the heating down, hog the remote control, watching programmes that bore him. Don;t offer cups of tea or coffee or wine etc.

Normally I'd not dream of being this rude but when people are so selfish and unattuned to the needs of others, it's time to stop being a doormat.

WitchDancer · 27/11/2018 17:13

Definitely time to tell them they've outstayed their welcome! Thank goodness for DH's workmate 🤪

twoshedsjackson · 27/11/2018 17:18

I wonder if the "major misunderstanding" which caused the original rift was, if you think back clearly, actually down to you understanding him all too well? Is he playing on your misplaced sense of guilt?
You've been hospitable, now just tell your guests that you need the room. No need to explain; none of their business if you need to put the ironing in there - it's your house. Enlist the aid of a friend to turn up with a suitcase in the role of your husband's work colleague if you feel he's that thick-skinned; if you've been out of touch for a long time, you'll have plenty of acquaintances he's never met.
Stripping the beds might reinforce your point, and when you ask about their leaving, follow up by saying how much you're looking forward to the "return match" - but naturally, you won't turn up unannounced, that would be rude......

ApolloandDaphne · 27/11/2018 17:20

Don't they have jobs they need to go to?

onalongsabbatical · 27/11/2018 17:20

This is so weird I'm tempted to think that there's something a bit missing in his emotional make-up, OP. And both his wife and other people are enabling him, right? You at least will eventually get rid of him, but I feel sorry for his wife.

PrimalLass · 27/11/2018 17:20

Turn off the boiler, say there is no heating or hot water and that they will have to go home.

Holidayshopping · 27/11/2018 17:26

They honestly sound awful. Why did you fall out before?

shouldwestayorshouldwego · 27/11/2018 17:26

This is yet another reason why we need a MN response team. A dedicated band of people with too much time on their hands ready to turn up with suitcases at a few hours notice to rescue fellow MNetters. They can then write their account too to add to the perspectives.

mrsgregorypeck · 27/11/2018 17:29

No jobs to go to, I’m afraid. DB retired very very early and his wife has never been allowed to work. They live in 1953, really.

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theworldistoosmall · 27/11/2018 17:31

I don't have too much free time on my hands. But would rock up to help these people who clearly need it.
So far today had this one and another one who was stuck in a cafe. One needs someone to tell the brother to fuck off home. The other needs to have said hello to the 'sick' mate.

theworldistoosmall · 27/11/2018 17:31

They live on another planet really

NationalShiteDay · 27/11/2018 17:35

It sounds like he's a controlling arse tbh. He's bored of controlling his wife so he's come to bestow some order on you and your DH.

BumbleBeee69 · 27/11/2018 17:36

Send him back to 1953 then, with all his luggage, he knows exactly what he is doing, living free food and board for ever.

Tell them they need to move into the Hotel. Otherwise he'll be thinking the work colleague will stay one night and they will move immediately back in. Shock

Speak UP Lady Flowers

CantWaitToRetire · 27/11/2018 17:36

Once your imaginary 'DH work colleague' has stayed, you can create a new fib that the rotter broke the bed or introduced bed bugs or something equally nasty that would prevent your DB coming back, just in case he's thinking of trying it Wink

theworldistoosmall · 27/11/2018 17:42

I still wouldn't create a friend.
CF - oh how long is friend staying
You - a week
Cf - ok

And off he goes to the cousin he was with yesterday for a week only to return to yours.
He has a form for staying for a month. He intends to be with you for Christmas. After all Christmas is all about families.