To stop sending my child to nursery cause they allow him outside

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here me out, I hope I'm not being PFB but I am so fed up with my child's nursery. Time and time again I've said he is not to be outside, but nobody listens! Each day he comes home caked in mud, all up his back, caked on his shoes, not wearing any gloves or a hat, some times not even wearing his wellies just his indoor shoes! Its Baltic. On Friday I went to collect him and they said he was outside making hot chocolate... with the mud he was rolling around like a pig in shit but he was covered from head to toe, in his hair, his ears, his back from when another kid through a mudball at him I don't know whether I'm overreacting though? Aibu!!

Oh OP is in Scotland so it might be 0 actually!

That was, meant to be a ? not an !

They love messy play at that age though. At least he's getting his fill of the mud pies at nursery, you could look at it like that?

It sounds like you need to have a word with them about making sure he's appropriately dressed though. IDK if cost is an issue but could you leave a set of waterproofs at the nursery? Lidl do good ones for a couple of quid.

Why is he outside by himself? That’s the issue here, he should of course be being supervised.
DD2’s nursery has a ‘free flow’ policy which I love and is one of the reasons I chose it. She’s always filthy when she comes home. She is supervised outside however, and puts her coat/hat on.

Ah I see you cross posted that he is 2. I can’t understand how he is out there alone. I would definitely speak to the nursery about lack of supervision and not putting him in appropriate clothing.

YANBU to expect them to dress him appropriately but he should definitely be outside making muddy hot chocolate. It's very important play for little people.

Baltic means freezing, as in like the Baltic Sea.

Off the point but: I've tried to work it out and failed - what do you mean by "It's Baltic"?

It's Scottish for bloody freezing. As used by BBC weather lady Carol Kirkwood on BBC breakfast this week, much to my amusement, although, sensibly enough, without the usual preceding "fucking"

Baltic? Cold, freezing?
I think it was about 3 when he was outside on Friday, but that's with no hat or scarf or gloves on. I get cold just walking him to the nursery!
He us the only one out there because the other children don't want to be when it's so cold!
He is supposed to have an early worker person with him for two of his sessions but on those days upon collection, she's sitting on the computer.although I suppose that's not to say she's been with him just minutes previous but doesn't seem like it to me

We've gone from simply getting muddy and not wearing gloves and a hat to him being left out in the freezing cold on his own without even a coat.

What's next

Wellies in ‘getting muddy’ shocker .... umm, what?! That’s what wellies are for surely? I would honestly rather my children were outside playing, and yes, getting muddy, than sat inside stagnating. We’re an outdoors family though, so maybe my judgement is a bit skewed, but I can’t think of an occasion where I’ve been unhappy that the kids wanted to be outside. Send clothes you don’t mind getting trashed to nursery, ask them to ensure he’s wearing appropriate clothing (ie coat, hat, gloves, wellies) and I can see zero issue.

Seems strange that he’s the only one who goes out, the vast majority of the children are outside most of the day at DD2’s nursery.

Send him in with a proper all in one and decent wellies. Kids love mud. No nursery is going to agree to not sending them outside, it is vital for their development to be able to get out doors and run about and play with mud.

It is just mud, not plague invested rotting bodies.

I'm in Scotland too and both my children are at a nursery which is outdoors a lot of the time. I just send the appropriate clothing (waterproof suit, warm clothes, wellies etc) and there are no issues. How old is your son? My one year old obviously gets his warm stuff out on by staff but my three year old just asks for help if he needs it, he can't do his wellies himself.

I'm not sure how you have 'run out of shoes' but at our nursery they need and indoor pair (slippers/crocs), wellies and he usually goes in trainers.

I really think it's your issue, I'd be raging if my kids weren't being allowed out.

my eldest used to go nursery and I used to be cross because he would arrive at nursery in hat gloves scarf coat etc, they had a rule of coats off at the door and hang on a peg, then would have them playing outside, I asked eldest did he wear his coat and hat etc and he said no, I didn’t believe him until one day I drove past and saw them playing outside in the freezing cold weather with no coats, no hats etc!! I was fuming. So that part YANBU but the coming home muddy, yes it’s a pain but all part of growing and learning/developing to me. Mine would come home with paint etc in his hair but all sign of a fun day x

No he is always wearing a coat, although like I said some times it's a hoody. There was only a few times he was out with no jacket, it was hailstoning and raining those times.
He's not always wearing wellies though again is my point. Often just plimsoles which then he is wearing into the nursery.
They only open the door about 2hr in to nursery, nobody goes out because it's cold. He is always out, I think there may have been two occasions where he hasn't been outside
He is 2

I find your post quite disturbing OP.

I thin you would have had very different responses if you had focused on the more genuine issues

To stop sending my child to nursery cause they allow him outside alone

To stop sending my child to nursery cause they allow him outside in a t shirt when it's hailing, despite sending in suitable clothing.

Getting muddy isn't the problem here. Lack of supervision and not helping a 2 year old with outdoor clothing is, and I would recommended speaking to the nursery about these issues.

One of the reasons why I love my sons nursery is that they let him out in all weathers. Even if he’s the only one. He’s an outdoor boy and adores it.

I have to take about 4 changes of clothes to nursery. What’s the big deal? I don’t get it?

I give him a bath when he gets home and he’s as happy as anything.

You are being really odd.

Don't say you don't want him outside.
A) no supervision
B) no appropriate clothes
C) length of time

I'd be tempted to drop all the muddy clothes on the head's office and tell them to give them back clean the next day.

Still, teach him (along the nursery staff) that he shouldn't be rolling in mud. Sand fine, but not mud and he should ask permission first.

We all teach children appropriate behaviour and getting mud all over them every day isn't.

Erm ok
He is 2 so he does struggle with wellies, they bring through his jacket from another part in the nursery but never take his gloves or hat or anything.
He has spare shoes at nursery but it's a bit late when the ones he wears are already caked in mud.

waterproof shoes, not wellies! and water repellent trousers

If you cant roll in the mud like peppa pig as a toddler when can you. Muds very good for your skin. On holiday once on a certain island adults were bathing in the hot sulphur mud. Yabu op. Get a all in one suit for him and change of clothes

"There’s no bad weather, only bad clothing!"

As said, that's the issue.

"Oh OP is in Scotland so it might be 0 actually!"

As Ive said to my Nigerian friend, when she's hysterical about her toddler going out, that's the climate he's growing up in.

There are colder places to live and their children play out, adequate clothing is essential.

Across Europe and Canada children play out. In canada if the temperature drops to - 20, the children are only allowed out for 10 minutes. If its down to -10-20, the children play out for 20 minutes. Less than that, but still minus, they keep an eye on them.

Lidl have had base layers in and they've got the waterproof overs, now. Both are easy to wash.

There should be someone watching and timing, but we need to acclimatise when growing up.

It's healthier than living in artificial heat.

Sounds awesome. YABU. Let the boy play