To stop sending my child to nursery cause they allow him outside

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here me out, I hope I'm not being PFB but I am so fed up with my child's nursery. Time and time again I've said he is not to be outside, but nobody listens! Each day he comes home caked in mud, all up his back, caked on his shoes, not wearing any gloves or a hat, some times not even wearing his wellies just his indoor shoes! Its Baltic. On Friday I went to collect him and they said he was outside making hot chocolate... with the mud he was rolling around like a pig in shit but he was covered from head to toe, in his hair, his ears, his back from when another kid through a mudball at him I don't know whether I'm overreacting though? Aibu!!

It actually spoils threads and probably stops posters getting good help and advice because so many sensible people must just give up.

I agree Nanny0gg, and it must be so frustrating for the OP to keep seeing people repeating the same old nonsense. Surely no one thinks that in 500 posts their suggestion of an all in one hasn't already been mentioned.

In the glade where the unicorns play it is perpetual summer.

Totally unreasonable! All early years professionals know that outdoor learning is best for kids, boys especially love it. Is he happy? Does he enjoy going to nursery? These are the key questions.
It has not been “Baltic”

Obligatory reminder to read the thread, or at the very least the OPs posts. They can even highlighted in a variety of colours to make this easier.

OP stop obessessing about washing jackets and shoes you are creating unnecessary work for yourself, and sending him in a hoody is ridiculous at this time of year. He only needs one nursery coat and one warm pair of nursery wellies (that stay there and are clearly labelled). It doesn’t matter if they are muddy!! Wash the coat once a week it’s just his nursery coat!

If you truly believed he was being chucked outside and left there all day unsupervised you would have pulled him out ages ago. Too much of this story doesn’t add up to me.

Op, for further advice on unicorns I recommend this.

Should unicorns play outside?

Only in bobble hats (with a hole for the horn) and full waterproofs....mind you it is the devil's own job getting their hooves in.

I haven’t read all posts. A close relative of ours doesn’t want to send her child to school next year because they go indoors too much. She wants him outside all day.

I hear unicorns avoid the Baltic this time of the year too.
They heard about that lake that froze instantly when some horses entered the cold water.

I haven’t read all posts.

No worries icanbewhatiwant - you'll fit right in with the other 98% of posters who didn't read the thread.....

NO! A child of nursery age should not be left unsupervised ANYWHERE by nursery staff
YES! Nursery staff should ensure a child is clothed appropriately for the relevant weather conditions
YES! You need to have a meeting with the manager to raise your concerns
YES! You need to say why you felt the need to add a photo of a normal looking wellington boot to your original post - please!

Nurseries are required to let children have time outside each day and unless it’s absolutely hammering or unsafe for some reason they will go out. If your child has to stay inside in medical grounds then fair enough but if not they can’t allow one child to stay in doors and have a member of staff solely for him to do so due to ratios. He’s a child let him be muddy!

Did you know that 78% of unicorns believe that 9/11 was an inside job!?

I did read the whole thread and I still disagree with the OP because

1. I think she's obsessed with mud, and her actual OP was all about that.
2. Just because he's not with a member of staff all the time in the garden doesn't mean he's "unsupervised", I imagine it's a free flow nursery where they can see him from where they are.
3. Op only brought up the "unsupervised" thing when posters told her she was being unreasonable about the mud obsession.

Nousernamefound But the OP's child is usually the only one that is outside, with all the other children inside. And they aren't ensuring he has suitable clothes on for being outside, nor supervising him.

OP is it not worth at least looking at some childminders? I know you want him to mix with DC his age, but it doesn't sound like he's interacting with them at nursery that much, if he is outside alone a lot. And if it's the only local nursery that takes under 3's there may be a childminder who has some preschoolers, or meets up with out CMs who have under 3's.

fresh air is good for them and they learn tons from playing like this
but
nursery should provide al in one waterproof clothing and wellies .

Is it a joke? A reverse?
I don’t get it?! Grew up in Scandinavia and we were outside, rain or shine (or masses of snow). You dress for it, done.
Kids need fresh air, love getting mucky and I see absolutely nothing wrong w what your nursery is doing. I really don’t.
I do see that you, however, try to prevent him from going out by sending him in in a zipped up hoodie.
YABU for not sending him w wellies, hat and a coat/rain gear for the weather.
YABU also for your complaint in general. Utterly bizarre TBH! sh air, crative play and a bit of muck: it sounds like your DS is lovong it all? So the ‘problem’ is just the ensuing laundry, inadequate clothing because you sometimes send him w a hoodie only)
A warm bath after an active day of outdoor play sounds like childhood bliss to me...?

PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, READ THE FUCKING THREAD (or at least the OP's posts) BEFORE YOU TYPE A STUPID COMMENT THAT WAS PROBABLY MADE 4 PAGES AGO!!

Totally agree, nanny, except it is more like 18 pages ago!

Erm...if a member of staff isn’t with him all the time...he is unsupervised. A free flow nursery means he can go from one area to another....these two areas still need to be supervised - as in staff need to be present, not just that they can see him from a different area However, this is Ofsted regulations, maybe it is different with the Care Inspectorate.

As far as all children being able to say when they're too cold - i remember being outside in a white blouse (school uniform) sitting on a shed roof in the snow and I was too frightened to say I was cold. I was fucking freezing, and as a child I had pneumonia, so I do know what feeling cold is like. Not everyone will verbalise it. It's not patronising to recognise that. He is 2 years old.

He has special needs, he is outside in a hoody in 4 degrees celsius because they haven't dressed him properly... might be raining etc and staff have stated he doesn't need to be watched because he is so well behaved. Yes I'd be concerned about that. You only need to do a quick google about what can happen at nurseries when the staff don't watch the children. Hope you get it sorted OP.

He’s a boy, they are as you put it happy as a pig in shit when rolling in mud. Let him run free as far too soon he will be glued to a phone or keyboard. Boys will be boys and it’s good for them, please don’t spoil his fun.

Is it a joke?

This thread is no joke, it's fucking torture.

I honestly think the OP could write 'AIBU to say the sky is blue' and the majority of posters would come on and say, 'YABVU...the sky is quite obviously blue, and you are very strange to think otherwise!'

Sounds like he's having a fantastic time!

I’ve read the thread. But op isn’t asking if she’s unreasonable for pulling child out for being left unattended she’s asking if she’s unreasonable for pulling child out for playing outside and being muddy. If he was truly left entirely unsupervised then surely this would be the main issue, the fact it’s an after thought makes me think it’s being embellished slightly.

Scandie Whilst I too applaud the benefits of outdoor play your anger at the OP is very misguided.

She mentions in the first post he has wellies, coat, hat, gloves so why you're berating her for not sending him in them I have no idea.

You have clearly read the OPs post from Sun 25-Nov-18 07:02:35, as you mention the zipped up hoody. However, you have clearly missed the next post just 1 minute later Sun 25-Nov-18 07:03:59, which says

Oh yes he was unsupervised on Friday as all the teachers are inside with the other kids. Even the kid who through the ball of mud went inside as it was too cold!

As you claim I see absolutely nothing wrong w what your nursery is doing. I really don’t.