To stop sending my child to nursery cause they allow him outside

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here me out, I hope I'm not being PFB but I am so fed up with my child's nursery. Time and time again I've said he is not to be outside, but nobody listens! Each day he comes home caked in mud, all up his back, caked on his shoes, not wearing any gloves or a hat, some times not even wearing his wellies just his indoor shoes! Its Baltic. On Friday I went to collect him and they said he was outside making hot chocolate... with the mud he was rolling around like a pig in shit but he was covered from head to toe, in his hair, his ears, his back from when another kid through a mudball at him I don't know whether I'm overreacting though? Aibu!!

Is your son happy there?

Get him an all in one waterproof a size up to cover his coat, and wellies.

The nursery isn't supervising your child properly & you need to make alternative arrangement for him. Who cares for the youngest & oldest children whilst you're at work?

TBH your day sounds really difficult with all the comings & goings & issues with washing/drying clothes. I think you need to reassess all your arrangements & consider getting a drier, or even a dehumidifier which will help drying clothes too.

YABVU. Nothing wrong with a bit of mud. It comes off in the washing machine and I bet your dc really enjoys himself.

Op, YANBU

If you leave the nursery, can you make alternative childcare arrangements or will it mean changing your working hours?

RTFT!

(sorry - that was tosparky)

Kids thrive outside and if they come home messy I would say that means they've had a good day. YABVU

I do think it's reasonable to ask the nursery staff to put his coat/ hat/ wellies on though.

I work in a nursery and we HAVE to go outside every day unless there’s very extreme weather.

However, children are put in wellies and supported into proper protective clothing.

Send them an email detailing how you want him dressed for outdoors and send him a waterproof puddle suit.

I’m sorry I haven’t RTFT

smiled kids do indeed thrive outside, but not when neglected to the extent that they are ending up on their own for long periods and caked in mud. I thought the whole point of EY intervention for toddlers was to improve adult interactions with DC not the opposite.

The issue is with him being outside without adequate clothing. If you are sending him with adequate clothes (just a hoodie isn't adequate) then you address that with them and if it's not sorted you move him. There's not a nursery out there who will stop him getting muddy outside and if you request that you'll sound batshit

For those not bothering reading the thread....

2 salient points.

The op's 2 year old is left outside alone

The staff do not put him in the appropriate clothes and do not make sure he is dry and comfortable afterwards

If you only skim read the thread you can pick up these points!

Am I the only one wondering why, if he never has his coat, wellies or all in one on, there are days when he doesn’t have clean stuff as OP hasn’t had chance to wash it and get it dry? Surely if he wasn’t wearing it then it isn’t muddy?

The supervision thing is the big one. I’d not be happy about it, but quite why that wasn’t what you led with in your OP I will never know. Obviously muddy clothes and wellies are more of an issue....!

Some of my happiest childhood memories were playing outside. We had ponies and chickens and stuff and built dens and forts and explored all the woodland beside the house. I’m sure my mother was tired of the mud trailed home but I think it’s really important for kids to get dirty and enjoy the outdoors. Get him appropriate clothing and speak to the nursery about ensuring he’s wearing it. The only way they are at fault is the fact they aren’t insisting he dress properly for outdoor play so I think that’s perfectly reasonable for you to raise with them but don’t stop him from playing outside altogether.

Nurseries have cctv demand to see the cctv and then there probably will be someone there supervising as that would be madness.

Just because she thinks he is alone, outside doesn't mean he actually isn't being supervised. She may have misheard

My DM has worked in a nursery for years and OFSTED are insistent that all the children spend time outdoors each day, regardless of weather. So i'm afraid you'll have to put up with it. Besides, it's good for them!

Nurseries have cctv demand to see the cctv not all do.

Any newbies to thread please read at least the last 5 or so fucking posts .

They sound like lazy fuckers, not supervising and not putting him in the correct clothing. Report them to the Care Inspectorate. Nothing wrong with being outside if he is supervised and appropriately dressed but they’re not doing that because they’re lazy.

Muddy wellies, shock horror!
YABVU - kids LOVE mud. Let him have fun. It can all go in the washing machine, wellies and all.

Yanbu. Take him out of it. You aren't being PFB - even if you were so be it.

"Get him an all in one" yes he has one, they won't make him wear it, have dropped him off wearing it and been told to remove it! I'm trying here!

I think the issue here is the wrong nursery for your child, some are very keen on outside play and lots of parents (evidenced here and yes including me) love it and actively look for a nursery which provides it!

You would probably be better with a smaller nursery, some have very little outside space which puts me off but sounds ideal for you.

I think you will be unlikely to change this nurseries mind if their whole philosophy is built on free access to the outdoor space.

Qasd - whatever their philosophy they still have to (legally) offer bare minimum care of children's welfare. That means adult supervision and dressing children appropriately. Nurseries can't opt out of that.