Morning drinking

[nottellingyou101]

I'm curious to know thoughts on this. I'm completely okay with it but interested to see what people think.

Once and sometimes twice a week at 10am I will crack open a bottle of wine and have 2 or 3 glasses over a few hours. I'll Read, catch up on some tv and other stuff and just relax and enjoy.

I do this because this is the only time I get to myself while the kids are in school and before everyone gets home around 4. I don't drink in the evening or at the weekends. Probably having around 16 units a week.

I know if I was to tell anyone this they'd think I had a problem and needed a drink first thing in the morning, but I don't.It's about 4 or 5 days before I'll have a glass of wine again since the last one.

What are you're thoughts?

I work. Exercise, clean, read and paint. What the fuck are you doing?

Lol, I'm biting again - you asked what people thought about drinking so early, you get responses.
To start with "don't hate me as I have much more time on my hands and you want it too" - erm, that'd be you on the offensive attack, noone else.
If you want to drink, then drink.

Not had time for a snooze today folks. Too busy.

What am I doing? Arguing with fuckwittery on the internet. It's my bad habit like yours is daytime drinking

To be fair, I drink when in sole charge of my children. Not much and when they are in bed. If there was an emergency (and there hasn’t been in 10 years so I’m glad I haven’t stayed sober for all that time just in case!) I would have ordered a cab!

OP says she has sobered up by the time they get home.

I think it’s just the fact it’s socially unacceptable is the main reason I struggle with this. Also, I love wine but never really fancy a glass until the evening. It wouldn’t appeal to me at 10am therefore I am struggling to understand how it could
appeal to others.

It's obviously unusual, but I think good for you. It's good to have 'me time', you're treating yourself and recharging. It's probably a lot healthier than someone who never relaxes. Your mental health is as important as, and is directly linked to your physical health.

I've worked for 3 hours. Tidied, paired millions of socks, scrubbed the bathroom, had lunch, worked a bit more, gone and done some shopping, now walking the 30 mins to school and 30 mins back. Not even had a glass of wine yet goddamnit

You just sat on your arse all day.

Aren't you peachy.

There's 10.5 units of alcohol in a bottle of wine. If you've worked out that you're having 16 units per week, that's 1.5 bottles. Correct me if I've gotten this wrong but u said that u only drink around twice per week, in the day. That would be best part of a bottle of wine each time. I drink wine regularly, as in most weekends. If I drank that I would feel at least tipsy.
So from that I'm guessing that you're getting tipsy, twice per week, regularly on your own (daytime/nightime irrelevant). Is this correct?

Why does 16 units mean 5 days drinking?

Because if you have it pretty much all in one go it is binge drinking. 16 units is nearly two bottles of wine and if you are only drinking once every five days that means you are having more than one bottle each time. Added to that you are starting at 10 a.m. so if you are ever called to collect your children from school in the morning it will be noticable and SS might be informed. If that isn't enough to dissuade you on it's on it demonstrates you have a problem.

In principal I don't see anything wrong with drinking at 10 am or 2pm, if the mood took me and I was alone I would too, I can't imagine canvassing opinions though. What I wouldn't do is plan ahead, and turn it into a regular ritual that I place a certain value on, it wouldn't be important enough.

I think you're the one who's making a big deal of it OP, and posters are picking up on that, the fact that alcohol has such a rigid place in your weekly life is quite unusual, as though you're a bit worried about what might happen if you didn't contain it.

Daytime drinking is not a social norm for a reason. Please do not compare this to having drinks with friends for lunch date. No one meets up with friends 2-3 times per week, every week & drinks half a bottle of wine. Again for good reason. It's not healthy, both physically & mentally.

I was at a hotel on holiday recently & they had bottles of fizz at the all inclusive breakfast. No one was drinking it barr an elderly couple on their first day, I assume because of the novelty.
No one was drinking it because even though on holiday, relaxing, no one wakes up & wants alcohol to relax.

Verbeena Done done did all today have you. I'm surprised you haven't turned to drink if Mumsnet is all you have

RickAndMorty guy or gal. It is basically 3x175ml glasses. 2 painting one with lunch. Whether I have a snooze or not I am done by 2 and have hours left and do not look or seem like I have had a drink in any way by the time I see the kids. You might smell a little on my breathe but so what. I hardly see any other mums or get up close to teachers.

Sigh.

I do not drink 16 units in one day and I probably wouldn't drink in the morning even if on holiday.

'Verbeena Done done did all today have you. I'm surprised you haven't turned to drink if Mumsnet is all you have'

To be quite honest, op, that post makes me think you've been drinking.

You might smell a little on my breathe but so what. I hardly see any other mums or get up close to teachers

Do you get up close to your kids though?

Today I have done some work, exercised, showered and washed my hair, farted about on mumsnet.

..And here comes the aggression from the OP. Obviously the Pinot's kicked in.

Tell you what OP, instead of bragging about your amazing life ( so amazing you start necking wine at 10.00 A.M. some days ), why don't you get off your high horse and do some of the earth shattering stuff you are alluding to.

It's obvious Mumsnet and it's users are beneath you ( unless they agree with you ), so why did you even post on here? ..actually you know why. It's because there is a part of you that you knows full well your drinking habit is a problem in some way, despite your emphatic denials.You wanted some ' Attagirls' to reassure you.

You came on here for reassurance , not ' thought and opinions'.

As I said before, if it's not a problem, try not doing it for a couple of weeks. Just picture that in your head, relaxing in your free time at home alone but without any booze. Do you honestly think you're ok with it? Can you relax without it?
You think you can but why not try it? Not for randoms on the internet but for yourself.

Sigh.

Yep. Fancy a ?!

That’s 3/4 bottle from 10am? - heady stuff

I do not drink 16 units in one day and I probably wouldn't drink in the morning even if on holiday.

You said that you drink about every five days and a total of 16 units a week. A bottle of wine is usually about 9.5 units. If you drink once every five days this mean that you have about 11.5 units each time which us quite a bit more than one bottle. If it is every four days it is about a bottle each time. Both are too much in one go especially as you start early in the morning.

It's (obviously) impossible to accurately identify alcoholism or alcohol dependence online, but I understand how frustrating these kinds of threads are for people who've dealt with addiction issues in themselves or loved ones. It's not entirely fair to say we're projecting or being irrationally judgy. It's just that much of this is so familiar.

And OP, the 'you' in the following list isn't necessarily you. I don't know you. I hope you and your family are happy, and if you aren't I doubt a Mumsnet thread is going to do anything.

For what it's worth, these are what I perceive as warning signs:

• compulsive need to discuss alcohol consumption, and how little of a problem you have. Raising the topic yourself, not getting drawn into it by accident. Wanting to state I AM FINE AND THERE'S NO PROBLEM, when nobody even asked.

• bolstering this with description of how fantastic your life is in general...

• ... except that it's also very stressful or tiring, and you need time to

yourself and deserve something you enjoy and why should you have that one special thing taken away?

• Yes, the thing you enjoy has potential to be physically or psychologically addictive, and it impairs function and numbs senses, but you're not hammered and you can stop any time you want.

• Impaired function isn't an issue, anyway, because you carefully schedule your consumption.

• Always plenty of examples of the many times you've stopped before, and how easy that was, and what the circumstances were. Hyper aware of past alcohol non-consumption. These interludes are always very important to functioning alcoholics, as is the 'functioning' part. It's proof there's no problem.

• Inevitable comparison to proper addicts, like people drinking meths on park benches and putting whisky on their cornflakes.

• Pretty vague about current consumption. Story often changes. Annoyed at people 'picking holes' in it. I'm the one who started this conversation, damn it, and it was to inform you I don't have a problem!

• Your drinking's not a secret, and your loved ones would be totally fine with it, if they knew the exact details, which they don't because it somehow never came up.

• Nobody notices.

• You're never drunk drunk. (Just sleepy, tipsy, weary, short-tempered, emotionally detached, relaxed, having a great time, forgetful, clumsy, distracted, enlivened. Probably none of these, as you have the magical metabolism which registers only the positive aspects of alcohol.)

• No, maybe not everyone does this, but I'm not like everyone else. Why are people so uptight? They're just so dull.

• Everyone drinks, basically.

• And SO MANY people drink more than me; why don't you go and bother them?

• Then the nastiness and insults, but only because people won't agree with you. You're usually a very pleasant, laid-back person who's completely happy with life.

Maybe during Christmas week but weird if you do it every week like you must be pissed by lunch time surely?.

No wine today and I relax on other days without wine. Friday, Saturday and days in the week. Why can't people get that and every evening with a bit of tv or book.

Yes I have a routine, it is regimented, just like people have a glass or 2 straight after work or a bottle even. I set aside 2 days a week to drink a few glasses of wine and paint, then after that no wine enters my body.

I never drink in the evenings or the weekends. I have some Xmas things on now but in Jan it will be out about once maybe 2x a month at most.

So sorry it doesn't fit in with your ideals.

What difference does it make if my kids smell booze on me 2x a week at 5 o'clock I'm not ashamed of that.