Morning drinking

[nottellingyou101]

I'm curious to know thoughts on this. I'm completely okay with it but interested to see what people think.

Once and sometimes twice a week at 10am I will crack open a bottle of wine and have 2 or 3 glasses over a few hours. I'll Read, catch up on some tv and other stuff and just relax and enjoy.

I do this because this is the only time I get to myself while the kids are in school and before everyone gets home around 4. I don't drink in the evening or at the weekends. Probably having around 16 units a week.

I know if I was to tell anyone this they'd think I had a problem and needed a drink first thing in the morning, but I don't.It's about 4 or 5 days before I'll have a glass of wine again since the last one.

What are you're thoughts?

This is what I do, but every day. And smoke too.

I am not concerned with what others think, and nobody gave me any crap over it. I also don't get what others consider normal: coffee before bed (so you can't sleep), desert on a full stomach when you have no room for it, wearing pyjamas when not asleep etc. Each to their own.

I'd say that if you are healthy, physically and mentally, then keep your head up and do whatever the hell you want and when you want.

I didn't read the thread. In case you got some shit from the sanctimonious people, then .

You on the wine yet OP?

Groovy then OP. Enjoy your justifying, your wine and your painting.

Puddlesplashing Not yet. It will be a few more days before the devils juice passes my lips.

I am not looking for justification. I believe what I am doing is far beyond normal compared with 99% of the rest of the country. I am healthy, mentally and physically.

Just because it's not normal, does it make it wrong?

The only thing I can think of that makes what I do wrong is having to get the kids in an emergency.

Personally if I changed my time and turned up to the school at 3 pm with wine on my breathe what is the problem. I might have been out for lunch with a friend. I wouldn't be pissed and I am well within my rights to have an afternoon drink. Plus this would be a rare occurrence and the school probably wouldn't bat an eye lid. Me and my partner have had a late lunch with wine and gone to pick them up. Big bloody deal.

@dorisdog has in spot on! I think it should be a problem but then I think not!

The argument about the children and accidents is irrelevant as they could happen at anytime.

You are not mentally healthy OP because you are engaging in this behaviour and trying (but failing) to justify it.

WhatToDo I don't think I am failing to justify it. Many agree with lots of things I've said, maybe more don't. I don't need permission. I know it's not normal but I am fine with it and my life is much better for it. No evening drinking, no late evenings and no foggy morning feelings, plus I get to have the time I need to myself, doing the things I enjoy.

So you used to drink even more?

and from me, too. Oh, and used to be fags too - Marlboro Lights (why is there no emoji for them?....oh, sign of the times -;)

I've just remembered...back in the day before illness struck, I had an art commission, hand crafted credit card sized Save the Date cards - 30 in total. I was a miniaturist, suggested an Elephant theme (they never forget, geddit?) and painted them over a week or so, mornings cos that was the only guaranteed free from interruption time I had.

So, yes, refillable glass of plonk, a Marlie Light, a cassette tape(remember them?) of Eric Satie and off I went, starting about 10.00ish.

Now, tho, depending on what I'm cooking, I've got a Chef's Perks glass by me 5.00-5.30pm.

OP, can I ask what your painting style and medium is, if you want to share?

Cheers!

Probably. I used to be out much more on Fridays and Saturdays. Now I rarely go out.

Is that a problem now. I used to drink more but now I've cut down. Here we go....

So if I used to smoke more and cut down, it's problematic?

Just because it's not normal, does it make it wrong?

In a vacuum, no. In an environment where children could be affected, absolutely.

Hi Aviator. I don't want to share to save outing. Thanks for asking though.

Still more justification. The vast majority of this thread has told you this is not healthyz . You can always find one or two who will agree with you on the internet because it’s such a big place, but if most people are telling you something is wrong, you need to listen to them.

SimplySteve Children have never been and never will be affected. They are happy, healthy and taken care of 100%

I have never turned up to the school pisses or drunk. The school actually give us wine on many school occasions. Performance evenings etc

if most people are telling you something is wrong, you need to listen to them. Good job many people in history ignored that then.

WhatToDo We have a difference of opinion. You believe what you want to and so will I.

As I've said. I'm not looking for permission, I'm looking for thoughts. There have been plenty of people and some that don't even drink agreeing with me. Do you stop doing something because others don't agree with you?

I'd like to live my life exactly the way I want to live it. If I was doing this every day, it would probably be a problem but it's all in moderation. Just at a different time to others.

I would be feeling tired after 3 glasses of wine. Don’t you feel tired OP?

I can’t really see a problem at drinking at that time unless you need to drive or are in charge of small children.

I'm pleased to hear that, but that's your perception. Alcohol inhibits many things, and children pick up on even little things. I'm getting the impression you're in denial.

I agree that you are not drinking excessively. But the fact that you have set times to drink can potentially indicate a problem.

Out of Interest, what if you had to go to the school in an emergency would you be worried they might smell alcohol on you? Would you try and conceal it? What age are you?

The only thing I can think of that makes what I do wrong is having to get the kids in an emergency.

By using the word "emergency" you are making it sound like a very unlikely event when in fact it is quite common be called by schools to collect children because they are ill. If you roll up at midday after having a couple of glasses of wine it will be noticed and may be reported as it is a sign of alcohol abuse. The fact that you risk it suggests that you have a problem with alcohol.

nottellingyoou - no probs

Many agree with lots of things I've said, maybe more don't.

I would be really interested to know whether the ones who don't agree with what you've said are those with personal or professional experience of alcohol abusers.

I'm not going to keep arguing with you math but I want to check I'm understanding what you're saying, because it doesn't seem at all logical.

You seem to be saying that because something is addictive, whatever feelings you have about it are problematic?

So whilst it is normal to have routines and little pleasures and treats built into your life, this is not ok with alcohol because it's different?

I understand that it's a different type of substance, yes. But are you saying that therefore you can't have a regular slot when, barring out-of-ordinary events, you normally have a drink ? That seems to be what you're saying?

So you can't have a routine of any sort where alcohol is involved? Even if your routine is a single bottle of wine over 3 nights?

Are you realy saying that?

Cutting down isn’t a problem. Cutting down with “rules” (you drink on certain days and at certain times) and lots of self justification might indicate a problem.

In a PP you also said that your estimated number of weekly units was for weeks when you don’t go out. Suggests that when you do go out and intend to drink you don’t cut down the daytime drinking, in order to drink less than the recommended max for the week. Another potential indicator of a problem.