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Morning drinking

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nottellingyou101 · 24/11/2018 15:03

I'm curious to know thoughts on this. I'm completely okay with it but interested to see what people think.

Once and sometimes twice a week at 10am I will crack open a bottle of wine and have 2 or 3 glasses over a few hours. I'll Read, catch up on some tv and other stuff and just relax and enjoy.

I do this because this is the only time I get to myself while the kids are in school and before everyone gets home around 4. I don't drink in the evening or at the weekends. Probably having around 16 units a week.

I know if I was to tell anyone this they'd think I had a problem and needed a drink first thing in the morning, but I don't.It's about 4 or 5 days before I'll have a glass of wine again since the last one.

What are you're thoughts?

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nottellingyou101 · 25/11/2018 17:52

Jenwithcurls Exactly. I have answered the door plenty of times with booze breath and red wine lips and I'm fairly sure the immediate reaction is alcoholic, because of course it would be. Who else drinks at that time of day.

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Stillwishihadabs · 25/11/2018 17:55

So what about knocking it on the head for a few weeks OP rather than mess about with 2 instead of 3, different time of day etc

VerbeenaBeeks · 25/11/2018 17:55

Yes but I don't drink a bottle. It's 3 small glasses

3 glasses of wine is the best part of a bottle. Regardless of your glass size being small or not.

PurpleDaisies · 25/11/2018 17:57

3 glasses of wine is the best part of a bottle

Small glass = 125ml
Three small glasses = 375ml.

That’s half a bottle.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 25/11/2018 18:01

nottellingyou101 Sat 24-Nov-18 19:16:16 ... Personally I would like the 3 glasses of wine to become 2... but apart from that I am fine with it.

I won't keep posting or reading this thread because I think you're just wanting to bang a drum, OP. You're telling people what you think they want to hear. Many on this thread don't agree with you. Perhaps they grew up with alcoholics in the family also and have heard all this jolly, excusing bullshit stuff before.

There wasn't any point in it in the first place as you think you're fine as you are and who cares? You just want to keep telling people about your drinking for some reason. Crack on.

You think you're fine.

VerbeenaBeeks · 25/11/2018 18:03

I like the wine too much myself and need to cut down, but the reason I'm coming back is because I can see the minimising being done by some - as it's something I recognise myself.
"Oh, it's 3 glasses but the glasses are small ones so it's OK.
As an example from some on here.
I couldn't tell you how many units I've had this week but it'll definitely be over the recommended guidelines Blush - anyone having too much will err on the side of "well it wasn't that much really the glasses were small or I didn't have anything at all on Tues/Weds so that means I'm A'OK" - even though they know they've had too much really but are trying to justify it or downplay it.
Which is what OP seems to be doing, sorry.

nottellingyou101 · 25/11/2018 18:06

LyingWitch

Personally I think the ones who agree with me are more opened minded people and looking at it in terms of why something is normal and other things not.

I think you are closed Of in your thinking that they are alcoholics or know someone that is alcoholic. As I've said. Take me out of this equation and have a discussion about it the reasons it is wrong and not what you perceive as wrong.

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 25/11/2018 18:11

OP, if you stopped drinking in the evening because you felt “foggy” in the morning, won’t your “foggy” time have just been brought forwards in the same way the drinking has? So, say you stopped drinking at 9pm? 9 hours later on getting up you still felt “foggy”. You Stop drinking now at what, 2pm? 9 hours later is quite late at 11pm, so i’m wondering how you’re actually feeling at the time the kids get home?

and on that subject, this Thursday when they get brought home at 5pm. Presumably this is by another parent. If I dropped my kids’ friends off at their house at 5pm and their mother had clearly been drinking, enough to be “foggy” or even more than “foggy”, then yes, I would assume there was an alcohol problem.

My mind has swung backwards and forwards throughout this thread. But on balance, i think i’m Coming down on the side of “not the norm, seems to be a pattern forming, not a healthy habit to have. Overall, not great, OP”

nottellingyou101 · 25/11/2018 18:12

Verbena So you don't know how much you've had but you know you are over. You could be waaaay over. I keep a close eye on what I drink. Mainly because of that documentary I watched made me think about it more. I'm not saying oooh they are small glasses. I know exactly the amount I've had this week.

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nottellingyou101 · 25/11/2018 18:16

By 5 pm you wouldn't even know I've had a drink. I'm not saying my head is as clear if I hadn't had a drink but you would probably not even know & no not because I am hiding it.

Big deal if someone has had a glass of wine at 5pm. Is that a major problem now. The lady who drops off is partial to a spot of wine and she would bat an eyelid

Geeez. Some people are so uptight.

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VerbeenaBeeks · 25/11/2018 18:20

How do you know that people don't know that you've been drinking?
If that really is true, sounds like you're building up a tolerance which isn't good either.

MarshaBradyo · 25/11/2018 18:20

Uptight
Close minded
Not the norm
Etc etc
None of this changes my mind.
Except that people (since you want to shift it off you) who do this most likely have a problem with alcohol if they need to start drinking at 10am to fit it in several times a week

And all the open minded ones would actually hate it if their dp did it if a sahd

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 25/11/2018 18:23

I'm not the slightest bit closed-minded. I have no vested interest in your drinking/not drinking and it's not the drinking in the morning. I said earlier that I'd have the same thoughts of somebody drinking in the afternoon/evening IF the situation were the same.

You said, OP, that you wanted 3 glasses to become 2. What are the reasons why this has not happened, given that it's something you want? Do you not see that as any kind of problem? That you don't have control of yourself over one glass of wine more than you want to drink?

Discuss, then. Since you like that godawful term. Or don't.

nottellingyou101 · 25/11/2018 18:23

Oooh for fuck sake Verbeena.

I have 2 glasses. A big lunch and a glass of wine. I may have a snooze and I pretty much feel fine. My tolerance to wine is pretty much the same as the norm. 3 glasses without the lunch and I would be pretty drunk.

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nottellingyou101 · 25/11/2018 18:27

LyinGWitch

Actually last week on one day it was 2. I'm not going to beat myself up over having 3 but I think 2 glasses is enough and just like any habit, it can take a while to break. I am aware it's a habit but I don't mind the habit. I'm sure we all have different kind of habits we'd like to break.

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VerbeenaBeeks · 25/11/2018 18:27

You said 3 at the beginning of the thread. I don't care how much you do or don't drink, but you asked for opinions. I'm giving mine and so are others, so as someone said upthread,crack on if you think you're fine.

nottellingyou101 · 25/11/2018 18:28

I've still said 3

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VerbeenaBeeks · 25/11/2018 18:29

Oooh for fuck sake Verbeena.I have 2 glasses. A big lunch and a glass of wine. I may have a snooze and I pretty much feel fine. My tolerance to wine is pretty much the same as the norm

Erm.... that says you have two glasses. Not three.

Desmondo2016 · 25/11/2018 18:29

You monitor it too closely for it not to be an issue for you. That's not to say you should stop, but that's your decision. Is it 'normal', no. Do you probably hide it from people, yes. Therefore would I say you have issues with alcohol, yes.

nottellingyou101 · 25/11/2018 18:33

Why wouldn't I monitor it. If I am not going out I know exactly what I have but if I go out I like to know what I am having on top of my usual.

Like I said. That documentary has made me more aware. I was probably drinking much more a year ago and had no idea of how much in the evenings than now but I have become more aware and health conscious

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LuckyDiamond · 25/11/2018 18:36

My morning drinks are:

champagne and orange juice
Champagne
Vodka and orange
Vodka and Crabbies ginger beer
Baileys in my coffee in lieu of milk
Tia Maria in coffee

All on high days and holidays not day to day

myrtleWilson · 25/11/2018 18:43

Verbeena - I think that sentence reads "two glasses of wine then a big lunch and with that big lunch a glass of wine" so three in total...

Jenwiththecurls · 25/11/2018 18:51

So here are some of the things in the scope of normal behaviour which I hear all the time:

"I could really do with a drink after the day I've had, fancy meeting for a couple after work?"
"DS and DD have been really winding each other up this week and it's driving me crazy. Definitely having a stiff drink when they have gone to bed!"
"DH and I are just sitting down to a movie with a bottle of wine"
"I've got the house to myself tonight so I've made a cheese toastie and cracked open a bottle of wine"
"We'll usually have a bottle of wine with dinner"
"We've decided not to drink Monday to Thursday (implying that they are cutting down to 3 non-dry nights per week - still more than the OP)

All of these indicate more of a problem than anything the OP has said she does, in my opinion. But I bet there are very few people who would bat an eyelid if they heard any of them.

bbcessex · 25/11/2018 19:00

Hi there OP

If you don’t mind me asking, can I ask why you don’t drive, and why you don’t personally pick up your children from school / activities?

nottellingyou101 · 25/11/2018 19:01

Jenwithcurls That behaviour has been normalised mine hasn't.

I have all kinds of issues with socially correct things that we should and shouldn't do.

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