Morning drinking

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I'm curious to know thoughts on this. I'm completely okay with it but interested to see what people think.

Once and sometimes twice a week at 10am I will crack open a bottle of wine and have 2 or 3 glasses over a few hours. I'll Read, catch up on some tv and other stuff and just relax and enjoy.

I do this because this is the only time I get to myself while the kids are in school and before everyone gets home around 4. I don't drink in the evening or at the weekends. Probably having around 16 units a week.

I know if I was to tell anyone this they'd think I had a problem and needed a drink first thing in the morning, but I don't.It's about 4 or 5 days before I'll have a glass of wine again since the last one.

What are you're thoughts?

I think my post made sense actually.

I was saying a) you were being aggressive

and b) that whether or not you were calling me a cheerleader, the term itself us flawed, or at least the way you were using it was.

To clarify, you said you'd never find someone encouraging someone to eat donuts or cake or whatever. I called bullshit. You totally do see that all the time.

But for you, it's only "cheerleading" when it's alcohol. That's your prerogative. Go for it.

It's just odd though!

Are you drinking so you can have an afternoon nap before the kids come home?

How do you manage on the days you don't get to daydrink/nap before they come home?

If you genuinely don't have any alcohol addiction or any sort then go sober for a month and see how you find it, it will save lots of calories before Xmas too.

Sounds odd to me, the only time I have an alcoholic drink at that time in the morning is on Christmas day, it's a nice treat but if I did it every day then I would think I had a problem regardless of the amount of wine involved..

The phrase 'it works for me' is a sign it's a problem.

"Alcohol use has some pretty firm social rules. You're breaking two of them. Lone drinking and morning drinking."

There is nothing wrong with lone drinking. I'm doing it now. It's Saturday night and I have nobody to go out with. Are you saying I shouldn't be allowed wine because I'm alone???
I only drink alone at home on the weekend, which is I think a more common pattern than drinking in the morning, but I can see why it works for OP.

"Oh yes, I have thought of a real issue now ... what if you had to drive the kids unexpectedly to hospital or something?"

That issue would be the same in the evening though wouldn't it? And the same for parents who don't drive.

*Workreturner

Don’t you ever have driving to do re the children after school?*

I asked similar earlier to OP but no answer. Presumably OP doesn't drive. Worrying if she does.

some who posted she basically drinks with brunch/lunch

She said she drinks a glass with lunch, one before and sometimes a third. Once, sometimes twice a week. She doesn't drink in the evenings and keeps pretty much to the guidelines across a week.

How is this intrinsically worse than drinking two or three glasses of wine with a book or the tv, one or two evenings a week whilst keeping within the limits?

She isn't sinking a bottle in the park whilst looking after young children or drink every day and is within limits observed by all the virtuous evenig drinkers on this thread.

I asked similar earlier to OP but no answer.

The OP stated in one of her early posts that she doesn't drive.

Only on Mumsnet....
the OP has justified her reasons, said she doesn't drive and I'm sure if there was an emergency she could walk to school and deal with it, popping a polo mint to keep SS at bay. The children are just as likely to have one of these Mumsnet "emergencies" at bedtime but, because it's deemed a more acceptable drinking time, that's fine! I think a lot of people judging harshly are clearly jealous as they too would love nothing more than a leisurely catch up on their soaps etc with a nice glass of wine! I know I Would!

Cressida, my last post to you on this thread as obviously we're not in agreement at all.

Your 'humphy' face and post was aggressive. I wasn't naming any poster a 'cheerleader', I see many, you don't. That's fine. No, I don't see them on 'donut threads', I see "Where are your fruit and veg?". We obviously read different threads.

I've been clear that I don't mind what other people's opinions are and I'm consistent on that. That's why your post made no sense. Personally I think you were irked at the term 'cheerleader', you don't like it. That's fine. I'll continue to use it where I see it. In my opinion, it's always on threads about alcohol. I don't mind at all that you don't agree.

I don't think having the odd drink alone is a bad sign, I've had a nice glass of red wine with my pizza and I'm all on my tod! If you get seriously rat arsed alone then that's different.

chocolate - the OP had already said she doesn't drive.

I don't know if the OP has a problem with alcohol or not but there are some thread myths creeping in on this - she's not drinking every day but she does nap every day (so if she is sleeping off the booze on some days presumably she's sleeping off the tea on others)

Gosh, some posters are working really hard to minimise this, even going against what the op has said to do so.

I guess op, you're not alone in starting drinking at 10 am.

If you enjoy it then you can enjoy tour glasses of wine at whatever time you want.

OP, it sounds very unusual to me, if not excessive.

But I won't judge, as I drink more. I drink with friends, in the evening. On particular evenings because in those days my job is very stressful. I would either smash something/cry or down a coupled of large glasses of wine while off loading with friends. My liver doesn't know that, though!

I've been doing the same thing for nearly 30 years (apart from when I was pregnant/a stay at home mum)

Question to people who drink in the evening: what if you needed to take the kids to hospital in the middle of the night?) I wait into my DH gets home, and he very rarely drinks alcohol. It's surprising how many units I can get in when he's not working away.

I go to the gym several times a week, and am a healthy weight. I put in more hours at work than I need to and nobody would guess I've downed a bottle of wine the evening before. I feel like a total looser most mornings when I wake up.

I have a friend who runs 10km a day, but also consumes hefty amounts of alcohol each day. I suspect there are more functioning alcoholics out there than most of us recognise.

I guess op, you're not alone in starting drinking at 10 am.

Right, so if someone isn't shouting her down for being a raging alcoholic then they, too, must be 10am drinkers . Talk about a strawman argument.

Personally the thought of drink at 10am turns my stomach but this person is drinking 14-16 units a week, hardly deadly levels of alcohol.

Shrunkenhead - big generalisation there. I'm a SAHM who loves wine. I could easily whack on a boxset or the soaps or whatever with two or three glasses of wine when DH is at work and the kids have gone to school.
As someone who knows how easy it is to let a few glasses slide to more over time though, it wouldn't be a bright thing to do regularly every week.
It could easily creep up.

I think a lot of people judging harshly are clearly jealous

Oh stop it! People who think wine at 10am is not a good thing are only saying that because they're JEALOUS?! 😂😂😂😂

Gosh, some posters are working really hard to minimise this, even going against what the op has said to do so

Some posters are trying very hard to maximise it.

Once or twice a week.
Two, sometimes three glasses.
Inside weekly limits.
OP doesn't enjoy evening drinking so doesn't drink then.

This is what the OP has said, however much people try to lard it up.

Why is this a crisis when the same amount drunk in the evenings is OK?

I can’t exactly judge, I necked a double vodka yesterday at 11am before my PIP tribunal.

However I’m not usually a big drinker (well, haven’t been since my teenage years - they were a different story). I have a baileys coffee every Christmas morning when the dc are opening presents around 10am and buy a bottle of red every other month or so when I fancy some. The bottle usually lasts for two weekends.

Op I think the thing I’d be concerned about if I was you would be that you seem to feel reading, television etc. just wouldn’t be as good without the wine.

Could you try not drink at all for two weeks, would that cause you any discomfort or annoyance?

I’d also be concerned about what happens when the dc stop being at school, when they leave for university or to their own home. You will be used to drinking at a certain time.

I think the only thing that would cause concern would be if you were drinking secretively.

I actually checke OP again to see whether I haven't misread it and OP wasn't talking in bottles based on reactions here...
Op just be a good girl and drink in the evening so people can rest. 🙄

PinkyU I think someone said unthread that op was not being honest with their DH about what time they start drinking, and have told him that they start at noon, not 10am.

That’s a bit concerning, if OP truly feels everything is fine and nothing to worry about, why would they feel the need to lie to their DH?

The amount itself doesn’t sound too bad op, the time doesn’t really matter I guess. It’s more the secrecy and that you feel you need the wine to fully enjoy reading/TV.

I do this because this is the only time I get to myself while the kids are in school and before everyone gets home around 4. I don't drink in the evening or at the weekends. Probably having around 16 units a week.

I'll drink more than 14 units next week as I have a party, but I'll be aware of how many I'm drinking and the following week it will be a lot less.

My units have not gone up at all. I like to stay within the 14 or just over

Blunt If you look up. Sometimes I might have a party or out with friends in the evening a few times a month.

I do plan it, so yes I agree on that part, but it's planned around when I can get day to myself and have nothing major to do so I can fully relax and kick back.

Dobbins. No. If we've had busy days we may all chill out and I might tell them I'm going to have my time. Put a movie on or iPad. It would usually be later in the afternoon 2pm or 3pm and I'll have a couple while I paint and they don't disturb me.

On the face it of, OP is around the recommended max level of units, though how accurate you can track units when you go to parties etc I'm not sure. It does still sound all a bit contrary to me.