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Morning drinking

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nottellingyou101 · 24/11/2018 15:03

I'm curious to know thoughts on this. I'm completely okay with it but interested to see what people think.

Once and sometimes twice a week at 10am I will crack open a bottle of wine and have 2 or 3 glasses over a few hours. I'll Read, catch up on some tv and other stuff and just relax and enjoy.

I do this because this is the only time I get to myself while the kids are in school and before everyone gets home around 4. I don't drink in the evening or at the weekends. Probably having around 16 units a week.

I know if I was to tell anyone this they'd think I had a problem and needed a drink first thing in the morning, but I don't.It's about 4 or 5 days before I'll have a glass of wine again since the last one.

What are you're thoughts?

OP posts:
OftenHangry · 24/11/2018 20:16

Wow. 2-6 glasses of wine a week, not even every day, once or twice a week, is "creeping up" problem? 😂
Sorry people but that is actually quite funny. Only "odd" thing is the time. But with OP waking up at 5, 10 is basically lunch time. Spread up to 3 glasses over 3-4 hours, include lunch and it genuinely is nothing horrible. Unless it's that "fit the whole bottle glasses"...

Do you all think that people going regularly for prosecco brunch have a problem too?

bertielab · 24/11/2018 20:17

3 glasses of wine a day -is not 15 units -more like 45 units with a modern glass.

Several things worry me.

Why the need to post unless you KNOW deep down this isn't right?

We are not talking once a year on Christmas day.

You 'need it to relax', so your painting or book reading doesn't 'relax you'?

Alarm bells, ringing out loudly enough. 3 glasses a day -it's a depressant and you will need more and more to relax.

Go tee total for 2 weeks -any moodiness, lack of sleep, change, anxiety -yes, you have a drinking problem.

Years ago in my 20s in a very workholic, long hours and stressful start of my career, when I finished work I had a shower, slumped down got a nice glass of red and thought 'ahh, I can relax now' -then one day I had no cases of red and got really annoyed that I had to go and get one or drink something else. That was the moment I stopped.

PurpleDaisies · 24/11/2018 20:19

3 glasses of wine a day -is not 15 units -more like 45 units with a modern glass.

Except the op isn’t drinking every day. It’s right there in her first post.

Cressida89 · 24/11/2018 20:19

Very aggressive Lying Hmm

My point was that the term "cheerleader" is an opinion, not a fact. It's full of judgement no matter which particular posters you've decides fit that category.

You stated there are never "cheerleaders" on threads about donuts. I think that too is highly dubious as a statement.

Emul · 24/11/2018 20:20

I am on my 5th glass of wine. It's 8.15pm on a Saturday night. Nobody would bat an eyelid at this. When I used to live alone (early 20s) I had day-drinking session where I'd have a vodka at 10am while I was cleaning my flat. I didn't get drunk, I didn't cause hassle to myself, it just made it more fun. I don't day-drink now because of work but I would if I could and my opinion on it hasn't changed. I don't have an alcohol problem. I moderate.

Only you will know if it's causing problems with your DP/DH and kids. My DP never noticed or if he did, he didn't care. I'm not irresponsible, it's not a big deal.

myrtleWilson · 24/11/2018 20:20

Bertie - she's not drinking each day Hmm

bofsy1 · 24/11/2018 20:20

Distance,

Probably, but they sure live long lives just the same in these Med countries!

Emul · 24/11/2018 20:21

p.s. I'm also a nightshirt worker and the amount of people who tell me they have a few drinks at 7/8am when they finish is unbelievable!

VerbeenaBeeks · 24/11/2018 20:21

A prosecco brunch out with a couple of mates once a week or so for example isn't quite the same though I think.
This is someone who waits until the kids are at school and opens a bottle of wine in the morning not long after they've gone.
2 or 3 glasses a wine by yourself in a morning when they're out at school/work a couple of times a week could easily slide.

Pandamodium · 24/11/2018 20:23

It's easy to justify to oneself. I used to do it, I was taking less then the maximum daily dose...

by 5mg altogether first thing on a morning just to dull the pain and get through the day. I had a legitimate reason, massive bereavement, abusive relationship.

Cressida89 · 24/11/2018 20:23

Bertie

She hasn't said she "needs" it to relax.

She's categorically said it isn't every day.

Otherwise, sage adviceGrin

HildegardCrowe · 24/11/2018 20:24

I do find it slightly ridiculous when people talk about drinking alone being a red flag. I live alone and like nothing better than pouring a couple of glasses 2-3 times a week after a stressful day at work. I can't imagine wanting a drink in the morning though. What would you do if you went back to work OP? Would evening drinking have any appeal then?

mathanxiety · 24/11/2018 20:25

Can you not relax without wine?

Can you be on your own without wine?

christmaschristmaschristmas · 24/11/2018 20:28

It would be acceptable if it was occasional. Christmas, lunch with a friend etc.

But it is not and I think you know it. Using 'alcohol' to relax....you know it is an issue.

Ginseng1 · 24/11/2018 20:30

Am judging! Imagine if a guy came on n said he cracks open couple a cans while kids at school couple times a week n wife out working? I can understand on holidays maybe if u coming off a night shift r something but on a regular week day n they have a snooze after I'd be worried bout that person!

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 24/11/2018 20:31

Cressida, your post made no sense. I don't mind what other people think. I expect them to have their own opinions. It doesn't change mine.

There are cheerleaders on this thread. On every alcohol thread there are quite a few, nobody does it on an obesity/overeating thread so I think you're being disingenuous there.

I think that people who egg on dangerous behaviour are dangerous and being complicit because they perhaps have a niggling feeling that they're overdoing it or feel judged, cling on to other like-minded people. I haven't always been teetotal and never felt judged because I wasn't - my liver, my sobriety, my business.

OP has posted that she'd prefer that the three glasses of wine she drinks were two. That to me is a problem with alcohol consumption; not the quantity as such, that's down to individual metabolism/chemistry but the fact that she'd prefer to drink fewer, that control is entirely in her hands - and she can't.

To me that is a problem. If you can't stop doing something that you really want to stop or reduce doing, then there's a problem. Doesn't need to be alcohol, could be anything.

If you post on a chatboard asking for opinions then you'll get them.

Bluntness100 · 24/11/2018 20:33

I'm surprised at some of the comments on here and it reminds me to ff the lady who was drinking in the park. With people going "go you" till it worked out she was an alcoholic. Then it was less fun all of a sudden.

Thr minimising is shocking we even have some who posted she basically drinks with brunch/lunch. That's not what the op posted, she starts drinking at ten am, does it up to three days a week, and snoozes it off before the kids come home. She may be happy to tell her husband she starts drinking at ten, but as of yet, he thinks she starts at noon. So it's minimised to him.

We all know drinking at ten am and sleeping it off before the family gets home and not being open about it is a huge red flag here. Why some folks are indeed being cheerleaders I've no idea. This looks like someone who could have a problem and doesn't want to admit it. Someone with kids. Someone who had to start drinking at ten as when she started at 11 she couldn't get time to sleep it off.

Let's not pretend it's fine. It's not. Starting drinking at ten am on your own and then sleeping it off before your kids get home is not fine. On any planet.

RangeRider · 24/11/2018 20:34

If it was occasional then I don't see a problem, but every week seems a bit Hmm to me. I don't see why wine is any more relaxing than a cup of tea when you're chilling out. Surely it's the chilling out that's the main thing?
But then I rarely drink (though sometimes alone) and have had relationships with alcoholics that weren't fun so I'm biased.

bertielab · 24/11/2018 20:35

Ok my mistake. But I took the 'reading with a glass of wine' to mean that reading itself wasn't relaxing.

But I stand by my advice, every 4 days is twice a week. Stop doing it for a few weeks -and see how you go. If you notice anything different. Yes, you have a problem.

DobbinsVeil · 24/11/2018 20:38

I'm a bit confused. The 14/16 units a week, is that just in the day time drinking of 2/3 days? So you shift your day drinking routine in school holidays to later in the day, what if you go away on holiday, do you feel the need for solitary drinking then?

Believeitornot · 24/11/2018 20:38

I am on my 5th glass of wine. It's 8.15pm on a Saturday night. Nobody would bat an eyelid at this

I am

HollowTalk · 24/11/2018 20:38

I think if I was tempted to do this, I'd be so scared I'd look for a job or some voluntary work to occupy me.

ILoveTreesInAutumn · 24/11/2018 20:40

There are some ridiculous comments on this thread.

Completely batshit.

Not I can go for ages without drinking anything. I can also have Baileys in my morning coffee, drink a bottle of wine on my own and enjoy cocktails, shots and a cold beer on a hot day.

I can’t say I fancy a few glasses of wine at 10am, neither the taste nor the sleepy after effects...but if you prefer it then than at 8pm ‍🤷🏻‍♀️ like you I’m usually up at 5am, I’m certainly on ‘middle of the day’ mode by 10am.

Purplejay · 24/11/2018 20:42

Your drinking is unusual OP.

I drink in the evenings, never while my son (12) is out or while his friends are here. I pace myself, don’t drink every night and rarely get ‘drunk’. I usually drink alone (I am separated), unless I go out. Some weeks I drink more units than you, well over the recommended number. I am trying to cut that down.

I am not sure that what you are doing is any worse than what I and many others do of an evening. So long as you don’t need to drive, and are fine for the kids why does the time matter? Maybe have 2 glasses not three and push it back to 11 if you want.

ChanelPlease · 24/11/2018 20:42

'This thread is bonkers. If she was having 2-3 glasses of wine with dinner a couple of nights a week nobody would bat an eyelid.'

It isn't 'bonkers'. It is crazy to start drinking at 10am. The op sounds deluded, in denial and is trying to seek approval to carry on.

If she was drinking on an evening nobody would bat an eyelid true Confused

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