are older women invisible?

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I read this a lot on mn and wondered if you think it's true and what age does it happen?

Why will noone ever fancy you again if you're over 30?! This thread's bonkers lol.

It happens about the time you are not of breeding age anymore

Btw, that comment makes no sense.

What about;

1. Women who can't conceive/have children
2. Trans women who have female reconstructive surgery
3. Even your point on a woman post menopause who looks younger?

Men can't tell if a woman is fertile. If they think they can then they're thick as shit.

God help those people who think they're finished once they're over 30.

I had my most passionate and happiest romantic relationship when I was in my early to mid 50s.

Not ime no.

Much easier to be invisible when I want to be though.

I’m not invisible.
I’m 40 have 4 dc and just started college and a part time job ( which they actually called me to say they wanted me more then any other applicant ).
Obviously I’m not the person I was 20 years ago and that reflects through me and I then get whatever response I get because of this (not sure if I made sense ). But I love being this age and in this part of my life. I’m so much more confident so I definitely won’t be ignored.

@VerbeenaBeeks the fact that I was new to the class and the instructor had no idea whether I was a total beginner or former Olympian is the whole point! All he had to do was look at me for a few (very obvious) clues..... or just ask..... he shouldn't have assumed.

Sometimes I feel sad that no one will ever fancy me again but on balance I reckon it's worth the trade off

Why will nobody ever fancy you again?

I'm in my forties, I've never felt/feel invisible. I find it an irritating statement that I only ever hear on here. I'm not a looker btw.

Invisibility would be a good superpower.

I am 70. I do not feel the slightest bit invisible and never have. I have certainly not noticed any less attention from men, if that is what the OP is referring to.

Oh - and I changed careers at the age of 50 - a great new lease of life. I certainly was not invisible then - people clamouring for my photos and input.

Weirdly, the opposite for me. I’ve become more successful in my career in the last few years (now aged 48) and have far more male attention also. I’m more confident and better dressed etc. Physically fitter than I’ve ever been also.

I’m 47, chat all the time to strangers- I assume they can see me.

I believe that the Queen is in her 90s, she is certainly not invisible. If I receive bad service I walk away and go somewhere else. I also don't tip if I receive bad service.

I'm not saying that no woman over 45 is promoted. I am finding that rather than being told there is a new opening or project I have to ask about it and am met with surprise. That was never the case before.
I find it annoying.

Women are fertile until at least 50 (taking into account early/late menopause), so 30is irrelevant. Do you think men think that they are invisible after 30 ? Seems that this is perhaps a myth that some people believe. I certainly don't feel invisible !

Who are you invisible too?

I’m always having twinkly eyed conversations with men and fab conversations with women.

Weird, I don't think older women are invisible at all, though I say that as a 33 yr old woman not a man. I love older women and have more older friends than young, their wit, personality, life experience, take no prisoner attitude, I love it. If you think attractiveness is just about looks, you're very deluded, I see the way men look at some of these perfectly average looking middle aged women, they're not invisible.

I always remember the time I went on a break to Paris, I was mesmerised by a woman in her 60s/70s, silver hair in a bun, white shirt, khaki combats, black biker boots.

One of my favourite colleagues is approaching retirement, her mischievousness, sparkle in her eyes, I never get bored of her company.

I've noticed it, OP. Started for me around the time I turned 40

I've never been stunning, but moderately attractive - if I walked through a bar, at least a couple of men would look at me. Now - nothing. It's great

Having said it's great...one big wake up call to me was realising that I had been included in conversations with groups of men essentially to provide some eye-candy. Not because they were interested in what I had to say. Ditto senior men at work showing interest in my career (I thought so, anyway)

I used to describe myself as someone who got along better with men than women - now I know that was crap, and my age means that men aren't generally so interested in me and I wasn't really "one of them" at all

A thought for the women that feel invisible. Have you mostly always felt outwardly attractive before the "invisible age" starts. If so, when the outward attractiveness subsides, do you feel that takes the shine off yourself. If so, that's not really you, you know, it's just a shell. Try not to let the shell cover up your wonderfulness, because deep down that's the real you. Let that shine through.

What a lovely post vitalogy

senior men at work showing interest in my career (I thought so, anyway)
This x100

Helmet I like the sound of those twinkly eyed convos... somewhat flirtatious and fun (if I have understood you correctly...)

I am becoming less invisible as I get older, I am happy with that. I do want some male attention (not approval per se, but certainly some engagement....)

It takes longer to get served at a bar