can't afford to prep for brexit

[paintinmyhairAgain]

wrong board but the preppers will probably flame me, as you will might for mentioning it on here .
i was wondering if things goes toes up and there are food shortages, what happens with people who can't afford to -hoard- store up goods i.e the elderly and people on very tight budgets already living hand to mouth relying on food banks ?
any thoughts ?

Just In Time manufacturing will have to change unless we get a true free trade deal. Cost of warehouse space in UK is soaring. So UK competitiveness in manufacturing will lose an edge as procurement costs (of raw materials and parts) go up.

I'm worried about getting spare parts for... anything. I imagine this becoming tougher; at the very least, much longer waits and more expensive, as the cost of shipping goes up & the logistics become more complicated. Will be like 1970s or pre-WWW days, when you expected spare parts to take 3-8 weeks to arrive, rather than current 5-10 working days.

I can’t remember who the other person was, I think he might have been a bbc journalist but not 100% sure. ( didn’t catch his name )

It was Dia Chakravati and Peter Kellner (from YouGov opinion polls)

Dia was saying she thinks the deal will go through. TM not out of the woods but the eurosceptics will bottle it and the deal will go through.

@StubbleTurnips - like the badge

Project denial is alive and well. The fact that for some reason a lot of people are under the misapprehension that Britain (a tiny island) is somehow superior to the rest of the world, especially Europe and therefore nothing bad can happen here is part of the problem and reason why people voted to leave. So you keep telling yourselves it'll all be fine, and stay out of my well stocked garage when shortages happen.

No worries bonbonours
I’ll be buying fresh food from Waitrose as usual.
You can keep your mouse nibbled 5 month old food to yourself

Oh, & I wonder how any other country outside of the EU survives? We must make a documentary about this mysterious phenomenon. 🤔

And we have a pledge!

Result!

Like many Leavers who are happy to throw the rest of us under the bus, Surfer is wealthy and will survive by -secret stockpiling- buying food and other goods on the black market.

You know when politicians say no deal will be fine - there'll be a few bumps and then it will be fine. This is the 'few bumps'. For them it's worth it. They have the money to weather the storm and stand to make a packet more after. That's why they're so busy trying to tell you it's fake because they need people on board to make it happen.

When it does they will say we told you it would be rocky. Just like they now say they knew it would be hard to brexit, having spent the ref telling us how easy it would be.

@surferjet - I wonder how any other country outside of the EU survives?

The rest of the world manages by signing trade deals, something the UK has yet to do as they are currently party to the EU wide trade deals. But don't worry, in the event of no deal, I'm sure the UK government will manage to sign all the necessary trade deals by 11am on March 30th, so there'll only be a few hours without them. After all, they have demonstrated their amazing grasp of the situation in the last two years so a minor detail like pulling together international trade deals won't phase them.....

It actually costs quite a lot of money to stockpile food & other resources - most ordinary people can’t afford to do it.
So if anything, it’s remainers who are the better off.

I can afford to stockpile, but I’m not going to because I just do not believe all the scaremongering bullshit. And I wouldn’t believe it if I’d voted remain!

Plenty of advice on here and on the Prepper topic about prepping in a tight budget with no space. Disaster capitalists hate it when impoverished people try to look out for themselves; skews the market conditions they have created.

Do you think all the people who voted leave would be frightened? Frightened we couldn't earn a wage decent enough to feed and clothe our families and put a roof over there heads? We've been a member of the EU for over 30 years, things are much worae , not better.

It is seriously scary that anyone really thinks there is a direct correlation between the government's austerity agenda and membership of the EU, without any other factor (notably the incompetence of the government) playing any part.

The black market it is then, Surfer. Will be a lot more expensive that way, but you can afford it.

Jack Monroe jpublished a basic stockpile list that cost about 20 quid. I’ll try and find it.

I've seen that @BertrandRussell . Much as I dislike her and she is rather late to this, it looks sensible enough.

You must live in a bubble! Are you serious ..... 'We are one of the richest countries and won't have a food shortage' BUT unfortunately we have a growing homeless population, starving children and food banks all over the place..... Rich country my arse, rich for the rich more like

theymademejoin
Well said

I'd be interested in that too bertrand.

Just leaving this here...

"Troops could be deployed on the streets to handle the fallout from a no-deal Brexit."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/soldiers-could-guard-petrol-stations-in-no-deal-scenario-np76w5wtc?shareToken=0da95830ca8bf8e38d63e85f64771680

My dad's ladyfriend's Son-in-Law works (worked? might have moved on now) for the Telegraph. Apparently the vast majority of its journalists were aghast at the Referendum result as they understood the likely impact - but they were bound by the editorial line of the paper to continue to promote pro-Brexit stories

Suspect that might be why I am not sure that he still works there

For those who asked about Jack Monroe's Brexit stockpile list:

cookingonabootstrap.com/2018/11/15/what-and-why-im-stockpiling-for-brexit/

I think the general lack of understanding of how much (or how little) the UK actually makes itself is the cause of a lot of people's nonchalance to this situation.

This! And a complete naivety around the labour force in the UK that work in the food industry.

That's a decent starter list but there's no way you can get all that for £20