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To be worried that this news will be buried?

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WhoWants2Know · 16/11/2018 17:51

What with it being CIN and May having to replace cabinet ministers again, I'm worried that this isn't being more widely reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/16/uk-austerity-has-inflicted-great-misery-on-citizens-un-says

For all the government say that Universal Credit is working to get people back into work, the UN reporter on extreme poverty and human rights finds that a fifth of the UK population is living in poverty now.

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Petalflowers · 16/11/2018 17:53

I think it’s still very hot news. Wasn’t there a Paronama programme about it the other days.

ConciseandNice · 16/11/2018 17:56

1/5th wtaf!!!? I admit that because of Brexit we left the UK for Europe in the last few months (economically strong EU country) and the difference is staggering- not just in education and housing but just in general. No food banks here! It’s making me so sad because I love my home country, but I didn’t know what else to do for the best.

Tanith · 16/11/2018 17:58

But not front page headlines, like it should be!

Instead, we’re having to read about rich and privileged people squabbling and scheming and ignoring the responsibility they have as Government.

How dare they deny this is happening Angry

toomuchtooold · 16/11/2018 18:03

@conciseandnice I know what you mean - I live in Germany, a nice town in a prosperous part of the country, but still, the idea of food banks here is unthinkable. Have you been to the doctor's yet? That's an eye opener, or it was here anyway, specially for the kids.

Mumminmum · 16/11/2018 18:06

In London, there are entire families living in damp, mouldy basements with hardly any windows. Reading descriptions of their lives is like reading a novel by Charles Dickens. Makes me sick to my stomach.

RedneckStumpy · 16/11/2018 18:08

We left the UK 5 years ago, when we come back to visit the poverty, and decline is staggering

WhoWants2Know · 16/11/2018 18:10

I found coverage in the Guardian and on Twitter, but obviously the BBC is otherwise occupied today. I struggle to find much in the other big news outlets.

The politicians he confronted pretty much denied it or shrugged their shoulders.

The report indicates that the issue really started to ramp up with the coalition government. Brexit is just adding to the issue. And if a fifth of the population is in poverty already, how many more have been just about managing until UC rolls into their area?

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WhoWants2Know · 16/11/2018 18:15

The panorama program was about austerity in general, but the UN report was just released today. Handy that it came the day after Esther McVey resigned.

The reporter spoke to Esther about the danger Universal Credit brings to women who are at risk of domestic violence, and she said that they should get counselling.

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user139328237 · 16/11/2018 18:18

UN poverty definitions are meaningless really.

user139328237 · 16/11/2018 18:19

What the UN call destitute is what any other body would consider poverty.

KingPrawnBalls · 16/11/2018 18:22

Convenient timing that Esther McVey resigned yesterday Hmm
Brexit will obviously make things even worse, I never thought I'd see a time when food banks were generally viewed as acceptable in society Sad

Bombardier25966 · 16/11/2018 18:28

@user139328237 The poverty definitions used are those of the Institute for Fiscal Studies and the Joseph Rowntree Foundation. Want to try again with your effort to discredit such an important issue?

tAAC · 16/11/2018 18:31

There are people living in tents in the middle of the roundabout where I live.

PEOPLE LIVING IN TENTS. IN 2018.

And not down and out drug addicts, but normal everyday people.

A fucking tent city fgs

CoolCarrie · 16/11/2018 18:32

It was just mentioned on the BBC news.

WhoWants2Know · 16/11/2018 18:33

A tent city in November, even.

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tAAC · 16/11/2018 18:33

Should have said its not just the roundabout, I think they've chosen there because it is near the police station so presumably they feel safer.

But there is a collection of tents in the old bus station, down the local woods there are at least 20 homeless people living, men and women.

People are being advised by the council of safe places where they can sleep in their cars.

Its a fucking disgrace

Bombardier25966 · 16/11/2018 18:34

It was just mentioned on the BBC news.

Twenty minutes in, nicely buried.

lljkk · 16/11/2018 18:40

Was a top story on BBC World Service earlier today.

ReanimatedSGB · 16/11/2018 18:42

The poverty so many live in and Brexit have the same roots - an ideology dedicated to advantaging the rich and their mates before anything else. MPs used to be a mixture of people from well-off families and various others who had had a variety of jobs so some idea of how most people live. Now the route to Parliament is: private school, PPE degree, and one of Dad's mates gets you an internship with the right connections, and your parents can support you working for free for a couple of years...

The mindset of some of these fuckers is literally feudal: they want indentured service to come back.

dangerrabbit · 16/11/2018 18:42

The spirit of Thatcher would be happy to see the return of Victorian values.

ConciseandNice · 16/11/2018 18:44

@toomuchtooold ! Yes we’re in Germany too. At the doctors last week. The difference made me weep!

ConciseandNice · 16/11/2018 18:44

Paediatrician too. Amazing.

ForalltheSaints · 16/11/2018 18:47

It's been on the BBC evening news. Interesting how the UN rapporteur felt it could not have been better devised if a group of mysoginists got together- so IDS has a lot to answer for.

OhmydearGod · 16/11/2018 18:53

Get counselling. GrinAngry

Just try accessing mental health services. You can self refer in my area for 6 sessions. Having been through counselling, twice, at 6 sessions in I was just opening up. Being left high and dry at that point would be horrific. It would be like opening a festering wound and then just leaving it there! That is without allowing for the fact that making that first phone call is unachievable for those with depression/in the middle of an abusive relationship. Where are you going to tell your abusive (and usually controlling also) partner you are going if you do actually manage to access counselling? These people have no fucking idea what an abusive relationship is like Angry

KatherinaMinola · 16/11/2018 18:54

I'm pretty sure I saw it on the BBC earlier. There's no burying something as big as this - not historically anyway (though maybe this week it will sink without trace).

tAAC, there was a story only the other week of a man being housed in a tent by the council!

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