To ask if anyone in the country is actually happy with the EU withdrawal agreement?

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Is anyone pleased with it?

Here's a tool somebody made with a table of contemts, making it easier to search through the withdrawal document:

github.com/Seferin/brexit_toc/find/master?q=

I came in to say exactly what Number game just said. I would rather remain, but this is infinitely preferable to no deal and allows for the gradual shifting of a future relationship - either closer or further away.

My ultimate nightmare would be an ERG member becoming Prime Minister, allowing a no deal crash-out and then signing us up to be some sort of US colony.

Sorry, numberfaker

Why would Remainer a be happy?

Well I'm happy. Just being able to say "this is what you voted for, you mugs" makes me quite happy.

More than that though, it goes a long way to confirming my suspicions of what's actually been going on for the last 2 years. That distills into what May said:

This (shit) deal, or
(nightmare) No deal ("here, let me show you again how bad it could be"), or
no Brexit at all.

This deal is ridiculous and will make nobody happy, even though it's better than we could have expected, given the problems. 'No deal' is unthinkable and I don't believe it's ever been an option.

Surely Leavers have to wake up to reality now.

They’ve been told throughout this

‘No deal is better than a bad deal’

Now they’ve been unequivocally told

‘This shit deal is better than no deal’

Surely Leavers have to wake up to reality now.

Hmm. You'd hope so wouldn't you. But then they voted for this crap to start with and there's still plenty of them saying they want 'no deal'.

Gosh, you don't get much for £39billion!!

I’m happy about it in my field - because eu law will simply continue to apply (checked this morning). Haven’t read the rest.

No, not at all. It’s a complete car crash that didn’t need to happen and which will worsen the UKs global influence.

Surely Leavers have to wake up to reality now.

Well if we actually left, but this is leaving Remainer style.

I admit that I've only heard one brief summary on Radio 4 yesterday. Based on that, it seems that we are still in exactly the same position as we were, having to obey all the rules/contribute financially etc but without any kind of say.

That does not seem out to me.
We should either be fully in or we should be fully out.

Given we've already voted to leave, then given a choice between this deal or no deal, I'd vote for no deal.

As a leaver no I'm not happy with it.
May needs to resign she doesn't have a clue how to negotiate a good deal and as a remainer should never of been the one to see this deal through.

I'd strongly prefer to remain, but I'm in NI so I'll take anything that protects the GFA and doesn't result in a hard border.

I wouldn't say I'm filled with hope, but perhaps less dread than a few days ago.

I'd be happier with a second vote and no Brexit at all !

Given we've already voted to leave, then given a choice between this deal or no deal, I'd vote for no deal.

I had a confusing conversation last night with someone who said something similar. It turned out that he thought that 'no deal' just meant we'd stay as we are now. It took half an hour to explain to him just some of the ramifications of 'no deal'. His demeanour changed from slightly arrogant and stubborn, to mocking and then to disbelief. He seemed quite 'thoughtful' when he left.

But @user1490465531 - leavers were in charge of the negotiations and either stomped off in a huff (Davies/Johnson) or couldn't deliver on the false promises (Raab). Own it.

It turned out that he thought that 'no deal' just meant we'd stay as we are now.

See, this worries me. What if loads of people think this.

If loads of people think no deal is a reasonable option then I hope they fucking starve.

No because I'm not happy with withdrawing from the EU at all. Think it's stupid.

See, this worries me. What if loads of people think this.

Me too, after that conversation. It's logical really though I suppose - under normal circumstances not doing a deal would mean that things stay the same. If you don't do a deal on a new car you keep your old car, if you don't do a deal on a new phone contract you keep your old phone contract.

I think it's interesting that May is offering THREE options now.

It's only been two before. No Brexit hasn't been in the picture.

I saw a similar misunderstanding on the news a few weeks ago, about no deal meaning no change. It's worrying how many people have no clue about what's going on - and don't even know it.

Given we've already voted to leave, then given a choice between this deal or no deal, I'd vote for no deal.

Sitting in NI, I would interpret this view as "I don't give a fuck about you".

But we have already thrown out the car/phone by triggering article 50.
To follow the analogy, no deal is the same as getting rid of the old car/phone before buying a new car phone.
To play with the analogy some more, not having a car or a phone will be the least of our worries under No Deal.

But we have already thrown out the car/phone by triggering article 50.

Obviously I understand that. I was meaning that it might seem logical to someone who didn't take a great interest in these things.

There is (or was anyway) a TV show called 'Deal or No Deal'. 'No Deal' just meant you carried on to the next question, it didn't mean the show ended and the studio burnt to the ground.

I know you did @FishesaPlenty .

Raab leaving has just upped the stakes.