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To still be cross at Jeremy Corbin's anorak

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popcornwizard · 11/11/2018 22:10

It's 11 hours after the event, but at the cenotaph amongst all of the black coats stood Jeremy Corbin in a blue anorak with hood flapping, is this really the best he could do?

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BoardingSchoolMater · 11/11/2018 23:47

@VassalageorChaos Maybe the Royals also frequent the same charity shops which provide my Etonian with his school coat... Grin

Chocolatedeficitdisorder · 11/11/2018 23:49

The man is inherently "scruffy" always has been always will be. Think you just have to accept it to be honest OP.

This. In the company he was standing amongst earlier today, he was an example of substance over style..

popcornwizard · 11/11/2018 23:50

It's a lot easier to disagree with decisions to stay 'on the right side' than it is to actually make them. He's on a permanent job interview and should dress accordingly. Or do those saying that appearance doesn't matter rock up to a job interview without researching the company and how best to look as if you fit in?

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Username198 · 11/11/2018 23:50

Tootyfilou

Couldn't have said it better myself

Walkingdeadfangirl · 11/11/2018 23:51

Trump is ridiculed because of what he says and does not what he wears. Jeremy Corbyn would be a great Prime Minister

Just like Trumps globally ridiculed opinions, Corbyn is just as likely to be ridiculed for his globally ridiculous views. His anorak is just the icing on the cake.

CoolCarrie · 11/11/2018 23:52

Ffs! I can’t stand the man, but he was there, showed respect and by the way Michael Foot wasn’t wearing a donkey jacket, it was an expensive coat his wife had bought him!

flossietoot · 11/11/2018 23:53

OP- you are missing the point- he doesn’t want to ‘fit in’! He doesn’t give a flying F what Theresa and Co are wearing. He has decided (like many other people), that what he says and does is more important than what he wears. And that’s perfectly ok.

Ilovemypantry · 11/11/2018 23:53

Was the first thing I said to DH when I saw Jeremy Corbyn at the service today “ look at his scruffy anorak and he’s not even wearing a poppy”. On seeing the pictures after I could see he was actually wearing a poppy..so small you could hardly see it!
It was disrespectful of him not to dress smartly like everyone else was, and he stood out like a sore thumb.

popcornwizard · 11/11/2018 23:54

And the whole orange Trump and crazy hairstyle has never been mentioned?

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everythingisginandroses · 11/11/2018 23:54

A vote for leave was a vote to break up the UK, but perhaps disrespecting the UK by one's choice of coat is worse. If you think a lion doesn't look sufficiently like a lion, try asking the next one you see.

Hubbleisback · 11/11/2018 23:55

No I don't think you should still be annoyed OP and really don't understand why you ever were. I can not really see that it makes a difference, least of all to those who sadly lost their lives 100 years ago. For those who say he made no effort, I remain unconvinced of the degree of difficulty involved in putting on a black coat. Many people no longer wear black to funerals but I don't think it is intentionally to show disrespect. Showing disrespect for those who died in WW1 would be to not learn the lessons or to fail to honour the words 'NEVER AGAIN'. Mr. Trump wore a black coat - enough said!

Username198 · 11/11/2018 23:56

Just like Trumps globally ridiculed opinions, Corbyn is just as likely to be ridiculed for his globally ridiculous views. His anorak is just the icing on the cake.

Globally ridiculous views? Like wealth redistribution, tackling poverty, fair taxes.

flossietoot · 11/11/2018 23:58

What has Donald Trumps hair got to do with Jeremy Corbyn wearing a navy anorak over his suit on a wet day??
Look- I get that some people might think that politicians are in some way special and to be revered and should dress like they are super important. However, having worked very closely with several, many are just normal people who want to improve the lives for those in their communities, and really that is their main driver. Comparing a socialist labour politician with hardline tories and champagne socialists is just bonkers.

Username198 · 11/11/2018 23:59

Of course this is all a ploy by the media so everyone is talking about Jeremy Corbyn's coat rather than the shambles the Tories are making of well just about everything

flossietoot · 12/11/2018 00:01

Exactly. And I am pretty sure there are plenty of other non Tory politicians up and down the country (SNP/ Labour/ DUP/ Lib Dem/ independents) who would have dressed exactly the same.

popcornwizard · 12/11/2018 00:01

Trumps hair was mentioned as a previous post suggested that Trump is ridiculed because of what he says and does not what he wears.

I was merely pointing out that his appearance has been widely ridiculed too.

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woman11017 · 12/11/2018 00:02

He's in charge of a party 79% of whom want a Peoples vote on a final brexit deal.

He's not listening.

He was probably told to wear something smart and ignored them too.

He's just not very good at his job, or able to win elections. Sorry.

Thissameearth · 12/11/2018 00:02

I don’t feel very invested in the subject matter itself but saw a few comments that made me think.

flossietoot that’s not the thinking of most working class people I know. I come from working class family background in v working class area. They don’t in any way identify with a politician turning up to an official function scruffy or wearing what they had in the cupboard even if it wasn’t quite right or smart enough. Wearing proper, smart clothes for formal events was crucially important to my family because , not despite, there being little money. Thinking about ice always thought it was because there was no “status” etc for them (us I guess) to rely upon and so had to create best possible impression every chance you had. This is only my experience of course, but I thought fairly typical? I went to uni and am a professional now and well, pretty wealthy, and my husband and child and I are generally pretty scruffy compared to my immaculately dressed and groomed, less wealthy family members.

Separately - genuinely all the military I know, and I seem to know a fair few, remain exceptionally well turned out, part of it being drilled into them in their training.

So I question how much identifying they would do.

GrimDamnFanjo · 12/11/2018 00:04

Everyone remembers the flack Michael Foot got, is there not someone at Labour HQ preventing that kind of home goal?

flossietoot · 12/11/2018 00:04

Who exactly is widely ridiculing Jeremy’s appearance?? Anyone with any wit would know that he isn’t likely to be looking the same as more ‘establishment’ politicians as he just isn’t that sort of politician. To ridicule just makes you seem undeducated and judgemental. And just a bit thick to be honest.

GrimDamnFanjo · 12/11/2018 00:05

@Thissameearth agree. You put on your Sunday Best.

flossietoot · 12/11/2018 00:08

Thisa- I don’t think he does look scruffy! That wasn’t what I was saying- I was saying they wouldn’t judge him for not having a wool coat for over his suit as many themselves wouldn’t.

Miscible · 12/11/2018 00:15

So, OP, during this important ceremony you thought it more important to check out what people were wearing than to think about remembering the fallen? That's not very respectful, is it?

psychomath · 12/11/2018 00:16

It's not either/or though, is it? Watching the ceremony I felt uncomfortable about the fact that the main dignitaries were the same sorts of politicians and top brass who'd sent young soldiers to pointless and unnecessary deaths in WWI, and I also felt uncomfortable in a different way about the fact that Corbyn looked inappropriately dressed and somewhat disrespectful. (I wouldn't want to comment on whether it was intentional, but either way it was poorly judged.)

How we present ourselves does matter. If I was hiring for a job I wouldn't choose the candidates whose values were diametrically opposed to the ethos of my organisation, but I probably wouldn't choose someone who agreed with all my philosophies and showed up for the interview in a mankini, either.

psychomath · 12/11/2018 00:18

Sorry, that was to all the people saying 'but what about Theresa May/Tony Blair etc'