To still be cross at Jeremy Corbin's anorak

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It's 11 hours after the event, but at the cenotaph amongst all of the black coats stood Jeremy Corbin in a blue anorak with hood flapping, is this really the best he could do?

Oh this is nothing to the Pages and Pages of utterly Faux Outrage I witnessed on Twitter when John McDonnell decided he didn't know how metaphors work.

And in all honesty quite a lot of the posts are not from people who are at all outraged, I'm certainly not.

This criticism of him yes it's not really a huge huge deal is it, but it's the same response over everything to to with Magic Grandad who should be above all and any criticism because he is the chosen one, the only one who ever cared.

It's daft.

Op said "cross".

I didn't take that as outrage tbh.

Hyperbole is all about us online.

He's just like every other politician. Worse than some better than others.

"Magic Grandad who should be above all and any criticism because he is the chosen one, the only one who ever cared. "

Not at all. Criticise away, but don't manufacture it. If the press and other routinely manufacture faux ad hominem attacks on Corbyn they are going to get called out.

At least he cares about the (pointlessly) fallen AND he cares about the living which is more than Mrs May does. He's shown his face at foodbanks to see the awfulness for himself, firsthand. Mrs May and her crew seem to pretend they don't exist......yes, Theresa, it's good of you to turn up for a photo opp. at the Cenotaph in your nice hat and coat but how will that staunch the misery caused by YOUR government?

You keep ignoring my point that they do the exact same thing though Boris.

If they really want to elevate political discussion actions speak louder than words.

And I actually get the same type of responses no matter what the discussion is tbh. It's wearing.

This criticism of him yes it's not really a huge huge deal is it, but it's the same response over everything to to with Magic Grandad who should be above all and any criticism because he is the chosen one, the only one who ever cared.

He must have known that his coat would cause comment, and take attention away from the real issues - so why not wear a black overcoat, unless his principles matter more to him than the risk of focussing attention away from food banks/austerity etc?

I think that politics sometimes means being pragmatic, rather than purely principled, and when you can bend on a minor principle, in order to keep attention on the important issues, I think that is good politics.

the only one who ever cared

Yy. I'm beginning to get more exasperated by his supporters who keep coming out with the myths regarding St Jeremy's contribution to ending Apartheid or the Troubles.

The AA movement existed long before Corbyn came on the scene. It was mainstream in the LP. Even Gaitskell spoke at a rally in Trafalgar Square. And it's organisers weren't at all pleased about Jeremy's publicity stunt - for Jeremy - because they didn't endorse direct action and breaking the law.

The same thing happened with the Good Friday Agreement. Adams and McGuinness told him to butt out when he was trying to disrupt the preliminary negotiations. He thought they were selling out by giving up on a united Ireland.

And he's got form for using the Service of Remembrance for political purposes. Witness what I said earlier in the thread about the hi-jacking of the ceremony to lay a wreath for Blair Peach.

So when Jeremy wears a mac when he knows that he'll be in the front row and everyone else will be smartly dressed, it won't be because it looked like rain.

I watched him today in his very smart suit, shirt and tie in the HoC.
He knew what he was doing on Sunday, the devious old goat.

I honestly don’t think he looks scruffy!
And he’s wearing two poppies, one on his suit jacket lapel and one on his raincoat.

I watched him today in his very smart suit, shirt and tie in the HoC

Must be because the weather was good inside the HoC today. He may have put the coat on if it got a bit windy or cloudy in there.

I am more cross that JC is not providing adequate opposition to this appalling government than him wearing a rain jacket. Men in suits have done more damage to this country than people in rain jackets!

This thread has shown we have a lot of people in this country who put appearance and choice of clothes above what really matters. People 'offended' because someone does not conform to their idea of respect.
Pay no attention to the fact he actually talks and listens to veterans and wants them treated with respect by this country whilst this government does fuck all to make sure those who have suffered mental health issues have homes and access to services they need.

Agreed. And at least he actually turned up - unlike a certain Commander in Chief who cancelled due to the weather. Now that's disrespectful!

Criticise away, but don't manufacture it. If the press and other routinely manufacture faux ad hominem attacks on Corbyn they are going to get called out

It isn't faux just because you say it is. It is part of Corbyn's ridiculous attempts to always be different, not like other mps, just an ordinary man. He is an extremely vain man.

This was another example- he has to stand out even when it was inappropriate.

The issue really is his judgement though isn't it? Who would have an inside out hood poking out like that, when people around them have scrubbed and polished up and it's a very important state occasion and a centenary too. He knows it's going to be televised. Either he 1. did it on purpose or 2. can't see any issue. Either isn't great is it, if he's proposing to run the country.

It isn't faux just because you say it is. It is part of Corbyn's ridiculous attempts to always be different, not like other mps, just an ordinary man. He is an extremely vain man.

This was another example- he has to stand out even when it was inappropriate.*

So why are you playing into his hands and getting enraged by his coat, if you think he's doing it on purpose ignore it.

Personally I couldn't give a shit what coat he's wearing, I care more about the hypocrites who go to the remembrance service when they're the ones responsible for thousands of people dying.

"Either isn't great is it, if he's proposing to run the country."

Actually all of the personal attacks on Corbyn are a diversion away from actual Labour policy. As this one was, Labour are proposing better care for veterans, but Corbyn wore the wrong kind of coat for people

Ad hom fail.

“This raincoat/anorak dispute is a battle for the soul of the party.”

No the real battle is between his shoes for the sole of the party.

L v R. The fighting will trip him up one of these days.

He needs to get the job done and not detract from that too much imo. If TM rocked up in an anorak with an inside out hood the response would be the same (if not worse since she is a woman)

He looked scruffy. I mentioned it to my husband. Everyone else looked really smart. What a plonker!

Definitely worse.

It isn't faux just because you say it is. It is part of Corbyn's ridiculous attempts to always be different, not like other mps, just an ordinary man. He is an extremely vain man

But he IS different to many other politicians! He always has been.

I honestly don’t think he looks scruffy!

And I don't know if people looking at 'your' photograph didn't actually watch the event.