To still be cross at Jeremy Corbin's anorak

[popcornwizard]

It's 11 hours after the event, but at the cenotaph amongst all of the black coats stood Jeremy Corbin in a blue anorak with hood flapping, is this really the best he could do?

Er, right. The leader of the Opposition only has one coat. What about the suit? Did he keep that on all day?

Why shouldn't he meet head's of state and other PMs wearing an anorak or a jumper. So the establishment thing is to wear a suit. You can call it respect, but respect for what? - traditions that include a whole lot of things you want to change to make the world a better place. You can disagree with his policies, or the likelihood of him implementing them, but if the guy wants genuine and real change, why shouldn't he shake up the idea that our leaders are better dressed and better off than Joe Bloggs and should be entitled to wear a nice suit, regularly dry-cleaned - probably on expenses...

Very good point.

Like I said earlier he could certainly have got a poncho (logo-free of course) and worn that. Why not eh? Conventions, pah.

"What about the suit? Did he keep that on all day?"

He was wearing it at the other memorial service he attended in Islington, which again was outdoors.

But its still faux outrage, manufactured by people looking for something about Corbyn to be outraged about.

He went to TWO Remembrance services in an anorak?

I suppose it may end up being good for cost-effective and practical rainwear sales if the country takes him to its heart and starts to follow his style.

IMO he can wear whatever he wants to meet heads of state and other PMs - his personal standards are up to him. However this was a large public event honouring many forces for whom appearance standards are everything. He managed to turn out correctly in previous years, didn't bother this year.

Poncho still not as practical, or likely to be something he already has, as his perfectly normal and utterly unremarkable raincoat.

A coat which is so entirely unremarkable I can't believe I'm still arguing about it.

Once the baby wakes up I really have to leave this thread. It's just utterly ridiculous that anyone gives a fuck about his coat or thinks it was some deliberate attempt to wind people up.

But its still faux outrage, manufactured by people looking for something about Corbyn to be outraged about.
Not at all. I was thinking about the war dead until Jeremy's very-obviously-out-of-step attire came into view.

BTW: Autocorrect tells me that I have spelled Corbyn incorrectly. It should be corncob.

"He managed to turn out correctly in previous years, didn't bother this year."

Of course he did, he wore a suit, tie and a poppy. That's the correct attire for a leader attending, there is no prescription for a wool overcoat.

But we must find something to get upset about!

" I was thinking about the war dead until Jeremy's very-obviously-out-of-step attire came into view"

No you weren't, you were looking for something to get outraged about.

If you were really thinking about the war dead and their sacrifice you should have been outraged about the presence of men and women who claim to remember their legacy but don't in the actions.

Or the current members of the government ( of 8 years) who have put in place nothing to care for veterans of former wars.

Instead you are bothered about a coat, 4 days later.

Pathetic, but what I've come to expect from the baying mumsnet mob.

This is the crux of it really. Some people feel Jeremy's very-obviously-out-of-step attire

Some think he wore a suit, tie and a poppy. That's the correct attire for a leader attending, there is no prescription for a wool overcoat

I can just about understand someone might notice he was wearing a different style of coat to others although didn't register with me in the least but the idea it was an intentional snub rather than him just being someone who goes by the second viewpoint is what's so ridiculous.

There are plenty of things to criticize Corbyn for. But they involve political awareness, logical arguments and presenting evidence. So much easier to have a go at his clothes, the school his parents chose for him and the fact that he accepts a salary for doing a job.

Personally, I'm not cross or offended that he wore an anorak - what I don't understand is why he (or his advisors) allowed this open goal for the media.

Given the coverage his garb (and other leaders' garb too - I remember the row over Michael Foot's duffel coat), he should have known that wearing this coat would cause outrage in some quarters, and would offer an easy opportunity for some elements of the media to focus on that instead of on his message about inequality, austerity etc.

A plain overcoat is not an expensive item, and on an MP's salary, he could easily have got one, and thus cut the ground out from under his critics.

I'm really sick of Faux Outrage too.

But why do they feed it as well. The Faux Outrage over the "call off the dogs" metaphor springs to mind.

SDTG that's the point people (some) are making with this. Even if he was aware, I doubt he would do that on a point of principle.

It's a shame he had to make a political point about it

That's an assumption.
You have no idea what his intention was, or whether there was an intention but you choose to decide you know.

Why should he confirm to warring clothes that the middle classes seem acceptable? The coat he was wearing was smart and warm and was what a lot of people would wear at a formal event such as Remembrance Sunday.

Some weird autocorrects there.
Why should he have to wear clothes that the middle classes deem acceptable?

This thread has shown we have a lot of people in this country who put appearance and choice of clothes above what really matters. People 'offended' because someone does not conform to their idea of respect.
Pay no attention to the fact he actually talks and listens to veterans and wants them treated with respect by this country whilst this government does fuck all to make sure those who have suffered mental health issues have homes and access to services they need.

Agreed Limen, its why its faux manufactured outrage.

Well said Limensoda.

Nine pages of faux outrage. Feck me. The bots are probably rubbing their thighs with glee.

Of course it's political ...it's to make him look different to the others there...
That maybe his/his team's aim and if so they have succeeded.... As for being a frother that's funny...he is far too right wing for me .... this is not about his or my views...just analysis

He wore his raincoat because it was raining.

I did too; it seemed the most sensible option.

I agree that the outrage about his coat is ridiculous - he was there and he paid his respects - that is what matters.

But I also think that he has a responsibility to make sure that he takes reasonable steps to ensure that his message gets the attention it needs and deserves, and that his clothing doesn’t distract from that message. Wearing a smart coat is hardly a hardship, nor is it a betrayal of the working classes - and I don’t think there is anything wrong with making a pragmatic decision, that makes it harder for people to focus on the man rather than the message.