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To believe there is no such thing as a female penis?

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Shriek · 10/11/2018 15:15

Ppl with penis raping, yet called women.
WTAF! Gangs of ppl with penis stamping on man's head, referred to as 'women'
Wtf is going on, has the world gone mad?

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Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:30

It’s not specialised equipment. It’s the language used is viewed as exclusionary. Feminine hygiene products etc. Therefore the use of the word woman is phobic.

As I said the world has gone mad. We are all now menstruators or non menstruators.

WhirlyGigWhirlyGig · 11/11/2018 19:31

Ptang I don't mean to laugh but the irony in autocorrect putting breast certificate can't go unnoticed 😂

PtangyangkipperbangOi · 11/11/2018 19:32

A brief example of Labours Women's officers.

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Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:33

Oh I think transplanting organs is highly unlikely to be successful. But I do think it shows some of the thinking behind the movement.

PtangyangkipperbangOi · 11/11/2018 19:34

@Whirly.......yeah, the perils of trying to post quickly from my phone Grin I am also really ill with an infection so surrounded by loo rolls and night nurse. It could get worse

Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:35

its not transwomen that Lunapads are catering to (Grrrrrrt)
^>led me to believe this sanpro by lunapad was specifically for transmen, hence my meednto hear what was meant by that

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SheCameFromGreeceSheHadaThirst · 11/11/2018 19:35

But I do think it shows some of the thinking behind the movement

Absolutely - fantastical thinking that ignores the inconveniences of biological realities.

Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:35

There they go with the lady cock thing again.

I disagree with you.
Oh yeah? Go suck my cock - threats of male sexual violence from a man desperately trying to be a woman.

How ironic

PtangyangkipperbangOi · 11/11/2018 19:36

@shriek I am all for debate, but it is what the TRAs are most afraid of. They have had women's meeting shut down, women have been threatened. I have complained myself to the labour party and been told " yeah, and what?" . We live in very scary times when a lie is the truth and peoples self belief is dependent upon society lying to them.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:38

Omg the labour wome n officers!!! One of them called maninpink
I like the comment by men at work about mysogyny in the labour party underneath that post

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derxa · 11/11/2018 19:40

I don't believe for a second that Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell think that women can have penises.

PtangyangkipperbangOi · 11/11/2018 19:40

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Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:42

These are men holding positions of office over women in the labour party, and threatening women?! Wtf!
And the labour party claim to support free speech and debate actually condone and promote this.
Labour supporters will be leaving in their droves (the transphobics)

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Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:44

Oh jesus Christ
Everyone needs to know about this shite.
There was a very sad story on here about a transman I think that felt they've destroyed themselves having transitioned as no longer felt this way and it was too late

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TeacupRex · 11/11/2018 19:45

Things are getting ridiculous now. Are we really going to have to label separate toilets/changing rooms/etc as being for 'penis owners' or 'non-penis owners' to protect women who do not feel comfortable with 100% biological males (whatever they identify as) using their spaces? Because the terms 'man' and 'woman' are not politically correct anymore?

Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:47

Shock that’s seriously grim. I am seriously concerned about the push for very young children to be labelled as trans.

It’s polarising the genders. If you aren’t girly enough then you must really be a boy. Not boyish enough? You must be a girl. Any child who doesn’t fit into the box is also being moulded online by some really biased organisations. Also the lack of power as a parent to challenge these assumptions is scary.

What will happen in the long term future? There’ll be no need for a LGBT community because L & G will all have been remoulded into the opposite gender. And there’ll be a generation of infertile, unhappy people who would have naturally grown up not to be trans.

FromEden · 11/11/2018 19:49

Things are getting ridiculous now. Are we really going to have to label separate toilets/changing rooms/etc as being for 'penis owners' or 'non-penis owners' to protect women who do not feel comfortable with 100% biological males

No because that would be transphobic. If a woman is uncomfortable she is clearly a bigot who needs to be "re-educated" (maybe in a gulag as suggested by one TRA, they were great places apparently). If she still feels uncomfortable well, so what, she needs to get over it. What's more important is that the feelings of a male are validated.

That's the current thinking anyway.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:50

I am not a menstruator, I am a woman, I am not the same as a man, for whom a woman's period is a biological impossibility. As hard as it is for those really hating their body, for being dysphoric for them, its a hard fact to have to be resigned to. It just is. I didn't evocle the world, its works as it is, because it works, because it evolved.
There will be diminishing future generations if this rate of chemical sterility continues exponentially.

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Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:51

Yes @shriek I read that thread. Research shows that most children presenting as trans will revert back to their own gender if they aren’t medicalised. It’s usually due to finding their sexuality and also the huge changes the teenage brain goes through. Once they start the hormone route they hardly ever Detransition. So if left to their own devices to start puberty naturally only a very small percentage would continue on a trans pathway.

The desire to ‘pass’ as female seems to be pushing early meds and the hugely inflated (made up) stats of suicide.

Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:54

Also the sheer online profile of the trans community must be influencing kids. There was a thread earlier about an article from Th e Sun saying it was the new trend amongst teenagers. It’s cool to be trans.

PtangyangkipperbangOi · 11/11/2018 20:01

My son is ASD and has had sever identity issues. At 15 he confessed to feeling totally suicidal on the 22nd December. We spent that festive period on suicide watch as the NHS pretty much shuts down. He was referred to a gender specialist psychologist and after two appointments was offered hormones as he felt like he may be a woman in quite a few ways. I said no. I went shopping. Bought eye liner, and other bits and bobs, some slightly feminine but not girly tops and some naice hair stuff ( he already had long hair). I paid for private psychotherapy and we lived on beans and toast. we found a new college age 17 after his first year ended again, with him on suicide watch. We finally got somebody to prescribe antidepressants ( it was easier to get HORMONES than sertraline as he is ASD). We upped the counselling and threw in specialist tuition in his hobby to help keep him focussed. At 16 we agreed to a name change as he had always hated his name. Thankfully, wonderfully, my beautiful boy is now a happy, confident young man with a lovely boyfriend. BUT if I had let the NHS have their way he would have been on oestrogen before he was on a basic anti depressant.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 20:01

I have watched a young friend of one of my DC destroy themsleves over this, they are suffering terrible anxiety.
Sometimes I think, seriously, kids need to be completely removed from access to the web unless supervised, in schools.
We went on a 'real' holiday recently. Did lots of 'real' things. We were outside of signal and it has changed her around completely. Away from the continual pressure of online judgement . some have told her she's gay and she's suffered forced gay relations.
For our own kids safety, something needs to be done to stop over-sexualisation of those that are supposed to be protected

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CaveMum · 11/11/2018 20:02

Have a look at these stats showing the ages of children being referred to The Tavistock Clinic (the NHS clinic dealing with gender issues in under 18s)

84, yes that is 84, children aged 7 AND UNDER were referred to them in a one year period Angry

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Grrrrrrt · 11/11/2018 20:05

Can someone please clarify why a transman has to have specialist period equipment or why its not a period, even though it is?
I don't think it's a case of needing specialist equipment but, in the case of LunaPads, it's designing rewashable period pants that look like boxer shorts. It's simply a less feminine-looking product. Not a need but a preference.

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