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To believe there is no such thing as a female penis?

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Shriek · 10/11/2018 15:15

Ppl with penis raping, yet called women.
WTAF! Gangs of ppl with penis stamping on man's head, referred to as 'women'
Wtf is going on, has the world gone mad?

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namastayinbed · 11/11/2018 18:56

Women don't have penises.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 18:59

So, do they 'menstruate', simples - yes, then this is normal part of being women. No - just take the bus to fantasyland?
Wtf is going on. I don't want to hurt those that feel they are in the wrong body and deny everything male, including their penis, but to have others self-mutilate just so they can pretend the blood from that wound is theirs actually, and its not really blood, its actually endometrial bleeding! Get out the fucking cab!
Ppl that do this are really not well, do not give a fuck about the ppl they are actually physically harming and are abusers.

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Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 18:59

On that queeroids poster there is a quote saying that trans women have to deal with their periods but do not talk about it often.

On a tweet from a trans woman they referenced the fact that they were ‘due their period soon’.

This is surely some kind of mass mental delusion!! WTAF is going on? Men cannot have periods. Trans women cannot have periods because they are either (the majority) a fully intact male with a penis, or have a fake cavity created. They do not have a uterus, ovaries, or cervix. They do not ovulate or menstruate except in their minds!!!

Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:03

Actually trans men who haven’t had a hysterectomy have periods. I was reading on MN of some idea that trans men can donate their reproductive organs to trans women in the future so that they can have babies.

Honestly wish I’d never started reading about the issues. I feel like I’m a dystopian reality where the voice of sanity is being labelled as bigotry and the world is going mad.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:10

If women don't want their reproductive organs and men don't want theirs, a reciprocal donation arrangement seems perfect.
But...that means there isn't a female penis. The one with the male penis used to be a woman and transitioned to male. Still not actually male, but for those with gd it will be a far more satisfactory result.
As for the rest of the fantasyland #TWAT

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Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:13

There will be plenty of trans women who want to keep their penis though. The amount having ‘bottom’ surgery is small.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:13

Is this why there is resistence to the idea of 'hate-speech' being acknowledged in law, sexism. So then women, and men, oh and transwomen and transmen, couldn't be accused of transphobic.
How do you even call someone who's trans, transphobic?? How can that even be a thing. Is anyone actually swallowing this shite?
Like the 14 tweeters, are they being accused of being transphobic?

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Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:15

What on earth does a transwoman want with a penis?
Women don't want penises of their own, they belong to men.

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Grrrrrrt · 11/11/2018 19:15

I think 'menstruator' language is more to accommodate for trans men and non-binary people who do have periods.

There was a thread on here recently where people were annoyed with LunaPads for giving a 'gendered language' warning about an article they had reposted. There were pages of angry 'but men don't have periods!' - but it's obviously not trans women that LunaPads are catering to. I think people tend to forget that trans men exist.

WhirlyGigWhirlyGig · 11/11/2018 19:15

I'm going to ask what might be a very dim question but has a uterus transplant into a trans woman's body ever been attempted?

WhirlyGigWhirlyGig · 11/11/2018 19:17

Grrr I haven't forgotten transmen exist, my daughter is friends with a trans man (whose name I've now forgotten) but I definitely haven't forgotten they exist.

Aeroflotgirl · 11/11/2018 19:18

The posibities are endless, anything goes it seems😱😱

Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:19

Because a trans woman who is self id doesn’t even have to take hormones. They just have to feel that they identify as a woman. The 14 (brave) trans women who are attempting to speak out have most likely gone through years of medical treatment and surgery.

The new wave seem more obsessed with swapping make up tips, how to access bathrooms and changing rooms and denigrating women. Oh and calling everyone who doesn’t agree with them names.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:19

How are we even supposed to know anything, which things relate to whom.
Don't transmen take male hormones which would stop hormones? Or take hormone stopping drugs to suspend everything?

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Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:20

*female, stop female hormones

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FuriousOfSurrey · 11/11/2018 19:20

Trans periods are one of the main reasons I became Furious about this. My lovely daughter suffers horribly with hers and of course she cannot identify out of her biology. She made the mistake of engaging with a little TWAT (using the anacronym from above, lovely!) Asking them nicely not to appropriate that biological misery when they were claiming to be having some sort of fantasy period. The vile little shithead trolled her for weeks afterwards. Women do not have penises and men don't have periods. True facts, they are.

PtangyangkipperbangOi · 11/11/2018 19:22

I like this one myself. Even if you are a paid up member of the labour party, you are NOT ALLOWED to say that trans women are in fact men. This is because they like to employ men as women's officers.

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Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:23

Currently you have to live as your chosen gender for 12-18 months before you can access the hormones on the NHS so there will be trans men who are having periods. After they start on testosterone they will stop.

Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:25

Eventually stop that should read, it can take a while

PtangyangkipperbangOi · 11/11/2018 19:26

There is no way that a uterus can be transplanted into a man in the near future. The balance of hormones, the anatomy, nothing about it is easy or straight forward. A uterine transplant can be done in women but is still incredibly rare. Even healthy women sometimes struggle to conceive due to tiny hormone imbalances . So right now, NO. thank god.

But there is a woman that "felt" like a man. Did the hormones. stopped them, got pregnant and gave birth. They are now campaigning to have the law changed so they can be registered as the father on that poor kids breast certificate. So two fathers. No mother. I think that is awful as that certificate belongs to the baby and not them.

Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:26

Can someone please clarify why a transman has to have specialist period equipment or why its not a period, even though it is?
Before embarking upon the transsexual journey they were having periods and nothing changes if they don't have drugs to transition. I think think this is dangerous language for still very plastic and as yet not fully developed brains. We are supposed to be protecting, someone is making a helluva lotta monies outta this.

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Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:26

I have no idea if anyone has attempted a uterine implant but I wouldn’t be at lol surprised to hear of an attempt in the next few years.

Zofloramummy · 11/11/2018 19:27

At all not lol

SheCameFromGreeceSheHadaThirst · 11/11/2018 19:28

I was reading on MN of some idea that trans men can donate their reproductive organs to trans women in the future so that they can have babies

Unless they're planning to donate their vasculatory systems too, it will remain nothing but a misguided idea. Despite what some fantasists would like everyone to believe, there's more to pregnancy than simply having a womb implant. Make bodies are not designed for pregnancy, and that goes far beyond the lack of a uterus alone.

Look at how common it is for natal females to experience difficulties with conceiving, maintaining and birthing a foetus successfully, even though our bodies are destined to do that. Though obviously trans women are 'better' women than those of us born female, so I'm sure they'll navigate reproduction far more successfully too 

Shriek · 11/11/2018 19:30

And yet, in the interests of fair debate, ppl must be allowed to air their views!!!
Everyone leave the labour party!

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