Sue Radford, baby 21 is here..

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21 babies! That's some achievement. I cannot believe her body is still in one piece. I feel sorry for those kids though. There's absolutely no way they can all have the individual attention they need growing up. Four kids maybe, perhaps 6 at an absolute push but 21 seems like collecting trophies for a hobby to me. It'd be interesting to see what families those children decide to have when the time comes. It seems like she's putting her own want for babies ahead of her existing children's wellbeing & that isn't healthy. I'm curious that she's practically guaranteed herself an endless supply of babies as her children have children. But they're supposedly paying for everything themselves so we're not allowed to say anything against them. I don't agree with it. Tell me I'm being U.

They pay their own way and as long as their kids are happy and content, its all that matters.

Mk1234, they don't pay their own way - they've taken thousands in child benefit and tax credits, to say nothing of health and education costs. And, judging by what the children themselves have said when filmed they aren't happy and content.

surely in foster care for 5 years in these circumstances it might have been a lonely silly mistake that started them on this path and they both might be trying to fill a void?

Except neither was fostered. They were both adopted at birth.

Didn’t the radfords briefly have a nanny at one point? I just remembered there being some Facebook drama with a local woman writing about how she always sees the same woman with them, but it’s turned out there’d not had a nanny for a few years or something along those lines

People adopted at birth do not come through that unscathed. As they show well.

I really don't understand how people can think that the Radford's having another child is in anyway a positive thing. I feel so sorry for each of her children.

I'm the eldest of six and was forced to skip school to look after much younger siblings. I was the one that ended up paying for this as I left school with little education. It took me years to get back on track so I empathise with the daughter that had to drop out to help out.

I don't understand why people can see this birth as a good thing for either the mother, the other children or local facilities, schools, doctors etc.

People adopted at birth do not come through that unscathed. As they show well.

Some do, some don't. It's not one size fits all.

People adopted at birth do not come through that unscathed. As they show well.

Some birth parents are total shite too. Genetics doesn't mean a lot.

People adopted at birth do not come through that unscathed.

Granted that might be true in some cases. HoweverI think a lot of adopters and adoptees would be very hurt by that comment.
I know someone who was adopted due to neglect and abuse.
He worships the ground his mum walks on. Although he has no desire to, He freely admits that if he ever did meet his birth mother he'd spit in her eye.

Just the thought of having 21 people over for dinner sends shivers down my spine, let alone 21 kids

Wow. Threads like this remind me of why i hate humans so much. So much hate and nastiness.

People adopted at birth do not come through that unscathed. As they show well.

They are, if anything, completely atypical of adopted people - especially those adopted before Open Adoption was brought in and being adopted by birth. How many adopted people do you know, with 21 children?

As an adopted person myself, we are definitely not a one size fits, as a poster above said. It should never be used as an excuse to make life choices in adulthood that negatively affect others. I wish some posters would stop inferring 'oh, they are adopted-explains everything', as many have since the start of this thread. It's very patronising.

Wow. Threads like this remind me of why i hate humans so much. So much hate and nastiness.

And they've produced 21 of your hated species!

I notice the dinin table had 17 places, so I am guessin 15 of the kids at home still.
I have watched the programmes and the VLOG and I see a well organised, hard working, warm family.

Sorry I don’t get well-organised, hard working or warm. What’s warm about locking your young children in a dormitory at 6.30 pm. What’s hard working about using child labour for cleaning and domestic duties and older children working in your business to earn wealth for you. Well organised, see above.

Sue has posted on IG that Noel is filming something for Zanussi so I guess the new kitchen appliances were funded by them.

Smithsally Only Chris and Sophie have moved out as far as I know.

Handsofmysweets I’m sorry I didn’t articulate that very well. Nothing at all wrong with working in the family business. However, I don’t think further education or uni is encouraged and I dislike people who use their children as cheap labour. Of course I don’t know that is the case with the magic pie shop but as I have stated previously it all seems a bit Dickensian to me. I also wonder if the 21 kids receive any royalties for appearing on TV or if financial provision, ie trust funds, are set up with any monies due. It all appears to go in the parents’ pocket.

SmithSally From what I understand it's the girls that do the housework and childcare of their younger siblings. It's 2018 and girls can achieve so much more. Why are they not being encouraged to go to maths club, rugby practice, get involved in after school STEM subjects? I'm not saying that any of them are interested in these particular things but continuing with girls do the childcare and housework to facilitate their parents breeding programme is every kind of wrong.

50% of children don't go to university. The Radford children are not unusual in that.
I'd also say there's a lot more love and even attention in that family than there was in mine growing up .... just the two children. Interestingly both my sibling and I have gone on to have big families .... perhaps confirming that a lack of love in childhood leads to a desire to have more children of one's own.

How do you know how much love the kids receive Ferrier? Have you bugged their home?

Haven't RTWT but I feel sorry for the kids. I think it's incredibly selfish to have that many, both because of the kids, and, importantly, because of the contribution towards the overpopulation of our planet.