Sue Radford, baby 21 is here..

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21 babies! That's some achievement. I cannot believe her body is still in one piece. I feel sorry for those kids though. There's absolutely no way they can all have the individual attention they need growing up. Four kids maybe, perhaps 6 at an absolute push but 21 seems like collecting trophies for a hobby to me. It'd be interesting to see what families those children decide to have when the time comes. It seems like she's putting her own want for babies ahead of her existing children's wellbeing & that isn't healthy. I'm curious that she's practically guaranteed herself an endless supply of babies as her children have children. But they're supposedly paying for everything themselves so we're not allowed to say anything against them. I don't agree with it. Tell me I'm being U.

I’m the same age as Sue had my first at almost 29 my fourth at almost 35. I’m done in SPD issues turned into fibromyalgia I feel four is more than enough for anyone let alone 21.

Apart from that is why one of them dropped out of university, because she was guilt tripped into it. She was made to throw away the chance of making something of herself. Most parents want their children to do better than themselves. It doesn't appear that way with this family.

Well yes despite the older ones all having said they wish they would stop, or confessing no one would notice if they weren't there or refusing to participate in the show altogether, they all hang around because they wanna be there and make pies....

Yeah doesn't add up really

So, she's spent 16 minutes in labour, 5 actually pushing, has a brand new baby and is already thinking about more That's so very wrong.

I agree. It seems weird that the newest edition just doesn't seem to be enough for her.
I just watched 15 kids and counting and she's pregnant with baby number 15, and while rubbing her bump she's already discussing with the other kids about trying for number 16.
Seems mad to me. But I do not enjoy pregnancy, especially near the end.

You know for a fact she was guilt tripped and made to leave university, do you? Or did you just make that up? Like all the other conjecture on this thread.

Blue

They have admitted to being late
The kids have said they wish they'd stop
The door handle thing

And more

Was all in the tv show. ON CAMERA.

Get clued up, Blue.

Blue have you just come to take over from Mum who has vanished?
I really don't understand people who defend them. No one has the right to keep producing more babies at the detriment to the others, children are not objects.

I touched on the uni thing yesterday but because I e never followed them or watched many of their programmes I wasn't sure if any of them had left uni, so thanks to whoever just said that one has.
I'll repeat what I said yesterday, most parents want their kids to succeed at whatever they choose to do with their lives. But for a girl to drop out of uni to help out, that's wrong. I do wonder if any of their sons who decide to go into higher education, whether any of those would be pressured in to leaving or is it just the girls because 'women do the housework'?

None of you can stand anyone disagreeing with you, can you?

It's not that, it is that you seem to be deliberately obtuse.

Your problem, Bluelady, is that you do seem to have a tendency to ignore inconvenient facts when they don't support your viewpoint, and to challenge basic facts that are fully evidenced because we all saw them on camera.

Upthread you said we were whinging about benefit fraud, for instance - yet when challenged to point to any post that made that accusation, you went strangely quiet.

You only think I'm being obtuse because I'm not joining the rest of you in your pearl clutching.

They get child benefit which must be £££.

So, can we clarify , you don't think locking children in bedrooms by removing door handles is dangerous and bad parenting?

You don't think that video footage of all the children climbing out of bed and mucking about as opposed to sleeping is a problem?

Just so we know..

Blue do you honestly think it's acceptable for them to keep reproducing? Honestly? At the detriment to all the kids they've already had? I'm not sure they could possibly nurture that many children, I struggled with four trying to spread myself equally between them. Three of mine are now adults but I'm often called upon for emotional support and advice, I couldn't do that if there were so many. I'm an average woman and not a supermum as she's been branded. A super mum would be emotionally engaged with all her offspring, not just the new cute ones who don't need the type of engagement a growing child does.

Unless they fall off three tier bunk beds and you have to screw the handles on befire you can get to them.

But it's ok cos they can all just vomit in the corner or piss the bed cos they can't get out to the bathroom

Oh if it’s safe why don’t we all lock our kids in their rooms....

You don't deal with a child who wanders in the night by locking them in their room.

I can't believe you are trying to justify it.

Many years ago me and my then boyfriend had some rooms in a family house. The family had 5 children.

The children shared 2 bedrooms, both of which had bolts on the outside. When the children were in bed the bolts were on so they could not get out.

Quite often one or more of the children would cry in the night, calling out for their mum or dad. Sometimes they would be crying that they needed the toilet.

I started getting up to them because I could not just listen to the crying and the child getting more and more upset. I asked the mum why neither she or her husband got up and she said they had to learn to sleep through the night and not make a noise!

The children ranged in ages from 10 months to 7 years.

I reported the family to Social Services and they came round to see the parents. So obviously SS consider children being trapped in a room to be child abuse

Could someone show me where I've tried to justify anything? I don't agree with you but you can't stand it, can you? Why don't we just agree to differ and all move on?

In reality though and this is being realistic, one more baby could kill her. PPH's do kill mothers, as I said above I was lucky to survive one.
Then what is the Dad going to do with all those kids and a newborn?

Marry someone else and have multiple kids with her too. There are daft women out there who would take him on no doubt