Sue Radford, baby 21 is here..

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21 babies! That's some achievement. I cannot believe her body is still in one piece. I feel sorry for those kids though. There's absolutely no way they can all have the individual attention they need growing up. Four kids maybe, perhaps 6 at an absolute push but 21 seems like collecting trophies for a hobby to me. It'd be interesting to see what families those children decide to have when the time comes. It seems like she's putting her own want for babies ahead of her existing children's wellbeing & that isn't healthy. I'm curious that she's practically guaranteed herself an endless supply of babies as her children have children. But they're supposedly paying for everything themselves so we're not allowed to say anything against them. I don't agree with it. Tell me I'm being U.

I think there'll be at least one more. They will push their luck imo. They've said no more after the last 3 iirc.

They looldependent/reliant on eachother as opposed to committed imo.

They have nothing to talk about besides kids.

They're a pair of irresponsible jackasses. He got her pregnant first when she was a child, ffs. The elder girls barely have a life of their own. Yes, I judge.

They seem nice and all but the poor children can’t be getting cared for properly or enough attention

But she’s already got grandchildren, 4 of them and I’m pretty sure the oldest is school-age now. It hasn’t helped her desire to keep being pregnant at all. I think, if anything, she will find it harder to watch the arrival of grand-babies once she can no longer conceive, for a lot of people addicted to pregnancy/babies it has to be them going through it.

The older children should leave such a family. They get little or no attention and are regarded primarily as unpaid help. Hmmmm

I know all of your comments were not aimed at me, but as you keep going back to minibus insurance and that was just a reference of mine to show the basic difficulties in managing and transporting a large family, I was simply trying to make the thread make sense. Insurance is not the focus, it’s the people management. You said I was cross so I just clarified I was not, just a bit bored with going over and over a point that was not of particular importance.
I apologise for the misunderstanding. It maybe that you also have a large family and that you are speaking from experience.

I used to follow them with interest because there are many aspects of managing a large family that are quite unique and it’s good to get tips. I find that I daily do 4 loads of washing, more if someone sets the bed. I pack numerous packed lunches, food shop, food prepare and cook etc for a large number every day and if I’m away or someone’s ill in hospital I have so much organising and prep that falls on my shoulders to ensure everyone has what they need, is where they need to be and has eaten. Children with food allergies, health issues. So I don’t really see how anyone can just step in and take over. I do feel really sorry for Sue when I watch any vlogs.

It’s almost as if the family is a sort of mini cult. Control is an integral part of a cult.

In reality though and this is being realistic, one more baby could kill her. PPH's do kill mothers, as I said above I was lucky to survive one.
Then what is the Dad going to do with all those kids and a newborn?

Nice? They seem nice? We don't know what they're like behind closed doors do we, Seeing her filming round her house, blimey it was boring..... I love this window, I love this fireplace, I love this washing machine, I love this bedroom .... all said on a loop over and over.

Her brain must be addled from 30 years of being pregnant, giving birth, handing over new baby to older children, rinse and repeat.

is being addicted to pregnancy a real thing?

Did the over dramatic announcements, updates, photo shoots, disinterest in anything over a few weeks old not give it away?

I think this from her birth story for number 16 is very sad: <a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130318080636/www.theradfordfamily.co.uk:80/my-birth-story-for-16-casper-theo-born-3rd-october-14-05/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20130318080636/www.theradfordfamily.co.uk:80/my-birth-story-for-16-casper-theo-born-3rd-october-14-05/

"We brought him home yesterday and introduced him to all of his brothers and sisters. What a special time that was they all love him so much we feel so incredibly lucky and blessed to have what we have and it really makes me feel very emotional when i see them all together and see what we have created over the years and who knows maybe we will be lucky enough to have more in the future!!!! "

So, she's spent 16 minutes in labour, 5 actually pushing, has a brand new baby and is already thinking about more That's so very wrong.

I think (as awful as this sounds) that the death/departure of Noel would hit the family a lot harder than Sue. Noel does the bulk of the school runs, all of the cooking, the DIY and obviously he runs the bakery. Sue does the housework and has the babies.
I agree that Sue looks wrecked now. She looks much better than me but you can really see the last few pregnancies have taken their toll on her. I don't think that grandchildren scratch the itch of those who are addicted to babies. Michelle Duggar barely bothers with her dgc.

You can become addicted to anything. Weirdly.

I feel sad for her children as you can't possibly get quality one on one time with that many. Also her: What is it, an addiction to the baby stage or some void she's trying to fill. We had a family with 8kids in my village. The eldest were dragged in as childcare when they should have been doing normal teen stuff, were hugely resentful & couldn't leave home fast enough.

Don't know the couple, only saw a few TV docs about them. What struck me was how calm they both were.
I'd be so stressed out by that numbers of kids demanding my care and attention every day. The amount of washing and ironing and cleaning and cooking would be unthinkable to me.
No idea if the kids feel overlooked - it must feel normal to them surely - it's all they know.

StoneofDestiny

It might be all they know but they must know this is not normal. They have the experiences of others to inform them of that. It is just plain wrongz

...wrong

The older ones only stay because they are guilt tripped into looking after the younger children.

So anything beyond the realms of 'normal' (whatever that is) is wrong? OKaaaaay.

Kpo58

The older ones only stay because they are guilt tripped into looking after the younger children.

I imagine that is part of it.

I wonder if to some extent they are on a publicity treadmill.They rely on the media £££ and have to keep having another baby to keep the media interest
I imagine they have commercial hgih-capacity laundry and cooking equipment.

People don't care if it's normal or not. They do care when they selfishly do things that are only at a detriment at others. Do you think that any of the kids would rather have 10+ siblings to look after or the chance to improve themselves (such as by learning to swim, go to clubs, develop employable strengths, learn what interests them, etc) and to actually have 1 to 1 time occasionally with their own parent(s)?