AIBU?
To think the men who put the Grenfell tower model on the bonfire should not be arrested
Leobynature · 06/11/2018 19:04
I don’t wish to upset or offend anyone with this post.
I am a non-white woman. I am upset and disgusted by the men who were filmed putting a model of Grenfel tower on the bonfire. What’s more upsetting is the fact that model depicted images of black children being burried alive.
However this act had taken place in the privacy of their own homes so I am wondering whether it is in the public’s interest to arrest and charge these men. I’m personally more concerned that our privacy is no longer respected and we could be held account for moral acts we do in our own homes. How many of us make prejudice, racist or other comments in ‘the safety’ of our homes. Is this more of a social concern than a legal one.
Or is it the uploading of the image which makes it subjectable to a public order offence.
I would rather see the man power, resources and money being used here used somewhere else.
What does everyone else think?
notaflyingmonkey · 06/11/2018 19:06
Fuck them. They knew what they were doing.
The only sad thing is that the people who put the cladding on Grenfell Tower seem to have got away with it.
Bombardier25966 · 06/11/2018 19:06
I think there was no need to start a third thread on the same subject.
Leobynature · 06/11/2018 19:07
@Bombardier25966
I had no idea there were previous threads going. That would have saved me some time 🙈
JesusInTheCabbageVan · 06/11/2018 19:08
Section 4 Public Order. It's public because it was broadcast online.
Thesmallthings · 06/11/2018 19:11
They uploaded it so it became a legal problem, just like trolling the parents of dead ones is now illegal
Sirzy · 06/11/2018 19:13
They made their sick act public by sharing the video. Their showing off has back fired
MesM · 06/11/2018 19:13
It’s a public order offence - they broadcasted it. It’s sickening and I hope they have the book thrown at them.
NotACleverName · 06/11/2018 19:14
How many of us make prejudice, racist or other comments in ‘the safety’ of our homes.
Well I certainly can't speak for anyone else, but I can safely say that I haven't. Because I'm not a hateful twat.
Coldilox · 06/11/2018 19:16
They put it online.
They might struggle to prove a public order offence but would definitely fall within malicious communications
Holdingonbarely · 06/11/2018 19:16
They put it online! That’s just means they’re fucking stupid and deserve everything they get
FortyFeet · 06/11/2018 19:17
Shared their sick actions with the wider public, not just their private domain. 100% should be held accountable.
Ohheyyy · 06/11/2018 19:17
What do I think? I think they're vile excuses for humans so deserve everything they've got coming and I bloody hope they have the book thrown at them.
ReanimatedSGB · 06/11/2018 19:18
The fact that they handed themselves over to the police makes me wonder if, like the dickhead with the 'nazi' dog, this is all about making themselves martyrs to 'political correctness' rather than just a bunch of thick wankers.
I don't think it's a good idea to prosecute them. I don't think that what they did is or should be a criminal offence, unpleasant though it is. Prosecuting them sets a precedent for prosecuting political activism and satire because someone finds it 'hurtful' or distasteful.
Soubriquet · 06/11/2018 19:18
It’s one thing to do it in the privacy of your own home. That isn’t illegal though it is in extremely poor taste.
But putting it online, is effectively trolling families who lost loved ones in the fire.
That should be clamped down on
Awwlookatmybabyspider · 06/11/2018 19:18
YABU. I have zero Sympathy.
They should have thought of the consequences of what they did before they did it.
They must be deluded To honestly think this would not go viral and cause upset and outrage.
IdahoCrow · 06/11/2018 19:22
They were arrested so that they could be properly and legally questioned about potential offences.
HTH
Awwlookatmybabyspider · 06/11/2018 19:31
Also its not Just what they did which is beyond twisted enough, but Its also thing that were said.
"That's what happens when you don't pay your rent".
Meaning what exactly the poor deserve to burn to death!!!
Armchairanarchist · 06/11/2018 19:32
How many of us make prejudice, racist or other comments in ‘the safety’ of our homes. **
Not in my house they don't!
Leobynature · 06/11/2018 19:38
Yes. This is trolling the families who are grieving for loved ones. My thoughts are with them. I hope they get justice and those who are responsible for the fire are prosecuted.
ReanimatedSGB · 06/11/2018 19:39
It's kind of useful for the authorities to have something like this to yell about while the enquiry is ongoing, isn't it? What with the number of arrests of individuals whose incompetence, negligence and penny-pinching actually caused all those deaths amounting to... none.
Mrsmadevans · 06/11/2018 19:48
I don't really know what they should do to the men , perhaps take them to meet the victims families and actually put faces to the cutout ppl in their model.
spacecadetfiberglass · 06/11/2018 19:48
"I am a non-white woman"
I call bullshit. You just want to seem like your point has more substance.
What they did was disgusting and they should be fucking ashamed and arresting them was completely appropriate.
GunpowderGelatine · 06/11/2018 19:51
YANBU. I think it's scary how much police agenda is driven towards things like this, meanwhile women remain to be assaulted and raped day after day and fuck all gets done
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